AZSIOUX Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 the gophers are on the bubble of all bubbles http://siouxsports.com/hockey/rankings/pwr/ you are the commitee http://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/yatc.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagard Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 the gophers are on the bubble of all bubbles I haven't looked at all the possibilities, but I think they need UMD to lose twice and literally all the top seeds to win the semi-finals everywhere. Then they probably need help Saturday as well. They basically got what they deserved after failing to get all the points up at Tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I haven't looked at all the possibilities, but I think they need UMD to lose twice and literally all the top seeds to win the semi-finals everywhere. Then they probably need help Saturday as well. They basically got what they deserved after failing to get all the points up at Tech. You sir are the most rational Gofer fan I have never met...Kudos to you...Go Sioux! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagard Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 You sir are the most rational Gofer fan I have never met...Kudos to you...Go Sioux! Once your kid starts playing you learn what a tough loss really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Once your kids start playing you learn what a tough loss really is. Let's keep that on the "down low"...no doubt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 If all the higher seeds win here out, MN is the first team not invited...#16 PWR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak hockey fanatic Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 sagard, its good hockey fans like you that keep these rivalries fun. i am actually a little sad (with a smile ) that i won't get to witness another great sioux/goofs matchup tomorrow night. im going with my cousin who is a big goofs fan, he texted after the game and told me he was digging through his closet for an old dogs sweatshirt . ill be sitting in the third row at center ice, hopefully watching the sioux advance to the championship game, but it would be more satisfying against our biggest rivals. i agree that you will now need alot of help to get in. it's not fun when all you can do is sit and watch and crunch the numbers (i hate math). this will be my first trip to the x, so i am hoping it will be a memorable one. GO SIOUX!!! oh, and to all the pairwise gurus out there, if we win the tourney and du loses to wisco, do we take a #1 seed, or do we need du to lose twice (which most likely will not happen, even without their top two centers)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFrog Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 oh, and to all the pairwise gurus out there, if we win the tourney and du loses to wisco, do we take a #1 seed, or do we need du to lose twice (which most likely will not happen, even without their top two centers)? To get a 1 seed over Denver if we win both games and DU loses(WI)/Wins(UMD). It's looking like we would need 1 of the following: A. Air Force to lose to either Bentley or RIT (But NOT Mercyhurst) or B. Notre Dame to lose 1 game or C. Michigan lose to Alaska These are the 3 that I found that would influence the PWR into our favor in that WCHA scenario. I know there are others out there, but this is what I've found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I'm actually hoping for the #5 overall seed with Yale #4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I'm actually hoping for the #5 overall seed with Yale #4. doesn't mean we would automatically go to bridgeport. especially if the gophs don't make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 with du winning today I can't get us any higher than the 5th seed overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 with du winning today I can't get us any higher than the 5th seed overall. that should be correct. lets get that first 2 seed and kick some azz!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 With all of tonight's scores in EXCEPT Princeton-Cornell and BC-BU... Looks like a win tomorrow lands UND between #5-#7 A loss lands UND between #7-#10 If Yale wins, we're quite likely #7 with #6 or #8 also reasonably likely. Yale loses, we're either #5-#6 or #9-#10. This should become more clear when Cornell/Princeton is settled. The other quirk is the WCHA championship game. While Denver winning could land us #5-#9 and UMD winning could land us #5-#10, it's pretty quirky if we lose tomorrow. A Denver win pretty much guarantees us a #9 slot, but a Denver loss makes #9 incredibly unlikely while making #8 or #10 quite likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fargosioux Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Running a few scenarios in the YATC tool, it appears to me that Minnesota misses the tournament with either an Air Force win over Mercyhurst, or a UMass-Lowell win over Boston U. Does anybody have any scenarios that prove otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagard Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Running a few scenarios in the YATC tool, it appears to me that Minnesota misses the tournament with either an Air Force win over Mercyhurst, or a UMass-Lowell win over Boston U. Does anybody have any scenarios that prove otherwise? I'm pretty sure this gets the Gophers in: # Hockey East Championship game: Boston University defeats Mass.-Lowell. # ECAC Championship game: Yale defeats Cornell. # ECAC Consolation game: Princeton defeats St. Lawrence. # Atlantic Hockey Championship game: Air Force defeats Mercyhurst. # CCHA Championship game: Notre Dame defeats Michigan. # CCHA Consolation game: Northern Michigan defeats Alaska. # WCHA Championship game: Denver defeats Minnesota-Duluth. # WCHA Consolation game: North Dakota defeats Wisconsin. AFA ends up #14 in PWR, Gophers #15. Gophers have a lot better chance if Mercyhurst wins, but AFA is actually a very good team and will win that game. Not many outs left in the deck for the Gophs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 it seems if mercyhurst wins the gophs have a shot, if air force wins its golfing time more than likely. wow is it close. remember for all doing bracket predictions to include bemidji state in there as well as they dont show in the rankings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxguyinstpaul Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 it seems if mercyhurst wins the gophs have a shot, if air force wins its golfing time more than likely. wow is it close. remember for all doing bracket predictions to include bemidji state in there as well as they dont show in the rankings this "attempt to mimic" is all fine and fun, but minny will be in - believe me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fargosioux Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Several scenarios appear to have Ohio State and Minnesota tied for the final spot, with Ohio State having a slightly higher RPI. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out if this is actually how the final PWR end up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upper Deck Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Do we want to cheer for Denver to win tonight - winning the autobid and making UMD an at-large (or does it matter anymore) to knock out the Gophs. Does a Sconnie win today put them back into pairwise and over the Gophs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie#12 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I hate to think that If Michigan wins the CCHA (or placing 3 or 4 in PW), they could be stuck playing Minny in the first game, since DU could not be forced to play another WCHA team in the first round. I hope that the NCAA will call the CCHA game tonight a "Winner goes to Grand Rapids" game, no matter how the PW goes for seeds 1 thru 4. There is also a chance that the Sioux could end up in the West as well. This would seem like a dream/scheme set up by the NCAA to get rid both Michigan and UND in one bracket at the hands of the host Gophers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey1 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 this "attempt to mimic" is all fine and fun, but minny will be in - believe me Why will Minny be in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie#12 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Why will Minny be in? NC$$ OSU does not travel well in hockey. Football maybe, but not hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey1 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 NC$$ I'm not a pairwise expert, but it is the pairwise system (computer) that determines the field not the NCAA. The NCAA commitee places the teams in the regions AFTER it has been determined by the pairwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagard Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Why will Minny be in? He has a lot of confidence in Mercyhurst and BU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie#12 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I'm not a pairwise expert, but it is the pairwise system (computer) that determines the field not the NCAA. The NCAA commitee places the teams in the regions AFTER it has been determined by the pairwise. Nothing is truly set in stone with the NCAA. It's thier Frozen Four not the PW Frozen Four Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.