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JPar signed a one year contract with the Salzburg Red Bulls (Austria) this week. Devils GM said they mutually agreed upon a change of scenery for one year.

http://www.redbulls.com/icehockey/

Very interesting.

Click in the English tab if you can't read Deutsch.

According to their club history Roger Lamoureux played there in 1977/78. Maybe JPL could get a job there someday.

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BLACKHAWKS NAME TOEWS 34th CAPTAIN IN TEAM HISTORY

The Chicago Blackhawks announced today that center Jonathan Toews will serve as the team’s captain during the 2008-09 regular season, making him the third-youngest player to earn that distinction in the history of the National Hockey League.

Toews (20 years, 79 days) joins Pittsburgh Penguins center Sidney Crosby and Tampa Bay Lightning center Vincent Lecavalier as the one of the youngest players in professional hockey to captain his club. Crosby assumed his role at 19 years and 297 days, while Lecavalier took on the captaincy for the Lightning at 19 years and 330 days.

“Jonathan deserves this honor, he is a tremendous individual and a wonderful leader on and off the ice,” General Manager Dale Tallon said. “He has experience in captaining teams from his World Junior appearances and guys follow his lead in our locker room.”

Chicago’s first choice (3rd overall) in the 2006 NHL Entry Draft, Toews led league rookies with 24 goals and seven power-play markers while ranking third with 54 points during his professional debut last season. The Winnipeg, Manitoba native ranked third on the Blackhawks with 30 assists and tied for third with his 54 points while appearing in 64 of the squad’s 80 matchups. He began his Blackhawks and professional career with a point in each of his first 10 games (5 goals, 5 assists), which is the second-longest streak to start a career in NHL history. Overall, he posted a point in 39 of his 64 contests.

Toews, who has captured Gold Medals for Team Canada in the 2007 and 2008 World Junior Champions, registered 40 goals and 85 points in 76 games with the University of North Dakota prior to turning pro. He joins current Blackhawks Head Coach Denis Savard (1988-89) as one of 34 players to wear the “C” for the organization.

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I suspect Jordan P went to wherever he went because he actually CAN play there and even he acknowledges his limits.

Going overseas to play in order to come back to star in the NHL doesn't often happen unless your last name happens to be Forsberg.

Jordan P was a good COLLEGE goalie. That hardly ensures success in the NHL and there's no way he was every considered the heir apparent to Brodeur.

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I suspect Jordan P went to wherever he went because he actually CAN play there and even he acknowledges his limits.

Going overseas to play in order to come back to star in the NHL doesn't often happen unless your last name happens to be Forsberg.

Jordan P was a good COLLEGE goalie. That hardly ensures success in the NHL and there's no way he was every considered the heir apparent to Brodeur.

PA and Dubay had Johnny Pohl on the other day and said that playing in Europe is compatible with playing in the USA only that they pay for your housing. If that is true he probably got a better deal than he would playing for an AHL team.

If I remember right Brady Murray got a pretty good deal to play in Europe as well and he did in fact end up playing the NHL for a few games...

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PA and Dubay had Johnny Pohl on the other day and said that playing in Europe is compatible with playing in the USA only that they pay for your housing. If that is true he probably got a better deal than he would playing for an AHL team.

If I remember right Brady Murray got a pretty good deal to play in Europe as well and he did in fact end up playing the NHL for a few games...

As I was typing my post above, I thought of Murray, but I do not know if he made it to the NHL or not. If so, it was as you say, a few games.

I didn't think Parise was an NHL caliber goalie when he was at UND and I still don't and I suspect if NHL GM's thought he was he wouldn't be shipping himself overseas.

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As I was typing my post above, I thought of Murray, but I do not know if he made it to the NHL or not. If so, it was as you say, a few games.

I didn't think Parise was an NHL caliber goalie when he was at UND and I still don't and I suspect if NHL GM's thought he was he wouldn't be shipping himself overseas.

Brady played four games with the Kings last season scoring a point.

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Whoever said "he intends to use our programme as a springboard to the NHL" is an idiot. You know what else is better springboard to the NHL?

The AHL.

There have been a lot of players that have made the NHL from UND. Zajac, Parise, Towes. That is just recently.

Sure we have a lot of players in the AHL as well.

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If someone said the UND program was a springboard to the NHL, do you think he meant UND straight to NHL? Without knowing the entire content and context of the statement, I wouldn't call someone an idiot for saying that. UND certainly is a springboard to professional hockey with the desired final outcome being the NHL.

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There have been a lot of players that have made the NHL from UND. Zajac, Parise, Towes. That is just recently.

Sure we have a lot of players in the AHL as well.

Uh, yes, Goon I am aware of this fact. UND has a premiere hockey program and always turns out good pro players. This is hardly the issue I raised.

Of the former UND players who have played or are playing in the NHL, how many went from UND to the AHL to some obscure league in Austria then the NHL? For that matter how many current NHL'ers have made it to the NHL via this route? While it is most certainly possible the odds of him now making it to the NHL are very, very poor.

J.P. was a restricted free agent with the debbies. When they did not make him a qualifying offer he became an unrestricted free agent which, of course, meant any team could sign him. When Big Lou didn't make him an offer and when no other NHL team made him an offer, well, what does that tell you?

Again, anyone who honestly believes going from a premiere college hockey program to the AHL and then to some low bred Euro league is a "springboard" to the NHL is an idiot.

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Uh, yes, Goon I am aware of this fact. UND has a premiere hockey program and always turns out good pro players. This is hardly the issue I raised.

Of the former UND players who have played or are playing in the NHL, how many went from UND to the AHL to some obscure league in Austria then the NHL? For that matter how many current NHL'ers have made it to the NHL via this route? While it is most certainly possible the odds of him now making it to the NHL are very, very poor.

J.P. was a restricted free agent with the debbies. When they did not make him a qualifying offer he became an unrestricted free agent which, of course, meant any team could sign him. When Big Lou didn't make him an offer and when no other NHL team made him an offer, well, what does that tell you?

Again, anyone who honestly believes going from a premiere college hockey program to the AHL and then to some low bred Euro league is a "springboard" to the NHL is an idiot.

Good point, Tim Thomas went from the NHL/AHL to the Finnish Elite League back to a starting goal tending position in the NHL.

Anything can happen.

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Good point, Tim Thomas went from the NHL/AHL to the Finnish Elite League back to a starting goal tending position in the NHL.

Anything can happen.

Yes, you are correct, anything can happen. One day, while playing at King's Walk I could get a hole-in-one AND meet a Brazilian Supermodel who's got it bad for mid-forties single guys from small town ND.

Nonetheless, I HIGHLY doubt, given his skill set AND the fact that other NHL GM's have witnessed his skill set, that JPar is on his way to the NHL via Austria.

Or is it Australia? Same difference.

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Good point, Tim Thomas went from the NHL/AHL to the Finnish Elite League back to a starting goal tending position in the NHL.

Anything can happen.

Riiiggght. It happens all the time.

Except that we are not talking about the Finnish Elite League, are we? Again, how many NHLers have used this obscure, Austrian beer league as a "springboard" to the NHL? This is a clear demotion for J.P.

If he were good enough he would be playing in the either the NHL or the AHL.

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Maybe we could just drop the subject as to whether or not people on this board think JPar did the right thing. Why don't we just wish him the best and perhaps even give him some credit. He is in the process of recovering from a fairly serious injury and perhaps he thinks this will be the best option for him to get back into shape and prepared for next year, or the next 5 years. There could potentially be more than just 2 steps involved in him making the NHL, if he does in fact make it.

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NDFlyer, I have just one question for you: How long did you play in Austria?? Better yet, why don't you just fill us all in on how many Austria league games you have watched and since you obviously are an expert on European leagues and their ability to help a player's development, why don't you set forth a plan for all those other hockey players that are thinking of playing in Europe only to one day play in the NHL.

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Maybe we could just drop the subject as to whether or not people on this board think JPar did the right thing. Why don't we just wish him the best and perhaps even give him some credit. He is in the process of recovering from a fairly serious injury and perhaps he thinks this will be the best option for him to get back into shape and prepared for next year, or the next 5 years. There could potentially be more than just 2 steps involved in him making the NHL, if he does in fact make it.

Exactly.

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