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Has to get the day started off right, ddoesn't he?

Nothing of note in it.

Haha. I figured it was my own idiocy. Thanks guys.

Maybe this is new to me, or maybe I'm just incapable of figuring this out, but the forum seems to have been recently updated for me, not sure if this was done on the Sioux Sports side, or if my device just finally figured it out. Anyway, before the update I could click on a thread and it would take me directly to where I had last seen it, now, I either have to start at the beginning or at the very end. Each of which proves to be frustrating because if I wait a few days there may be pages of comments I haven't seen and it takes a frustratingly long time to get back to where I left off. Sadly, this has caused me to spend less time on here. Does anyone have a fix for this? I'd like to straighten it out before the season starts and the comments and discussion really ramp up.

As long as the Johnson that was playing in March and April shows up this fall, he can take a stupid penalty here and there as far as I'm concerned. Kid was an absolute beast to finish the season.

I was at this game, it was pretty sweet. The crowd went absolutely crazy.

I don't know, I'll have to be pretty drunk before I start cheering for the Sundogs by name. So maybe it will help the booze sales.

I think the crowd noise has more to do with the fact that games have become more of a social status is Grand Forks than really for fans. I know a lot of people that go just to hang out, almost like a night at the club. They couldn't care less about the game itself.

At this point might as well call them the rose petals and parade them out in pink jerseys, Kelly would probably love that. Seriously though, I have no idea. I know I remember seeing names in the list that I didn't mind. If I remember right, I saw Big Horns in the list, I thought that would be something if done right would make a pretty sweet logo. I think my biggest issue is with just how unimaginative everything on this list is. What the hell did we pay this firm for?

No we're not all the Sioux forever crowd. I would love to have the Sioux back, but I understand that's not happening. I wouldn't be opposed to a new nickname but these poor excuses for options don't cut it. As I've said before, the best options in my opinion are Roughriders (the name of the local high school, how original), or Fighting Hawks (oh, another school with Hawks, how original). North Stars should have never been considered because Minnesota is the North Star State, not North Dakota. Sundogs is just dumb, as well as NoDaks.

I recently read an article that we'll be facing an ice age by 2030. So you're telling me only ten years of this new terrible logo?

It's not illegal at all, it just won't remain a trademark.

Okay. UND wins by not having any Tom, Dick, or Harry slapping the proud logo that Brien created onto anything they want, that includes stupid Bison fans creating shirts and such. It allows UND to control the heritage and the future of that logo and not have it tarnished by someone else, who may do whatever they please with it if the trademark were to lapse. The NCAA benefits by not having the continued circulation of the logo outside of a very, very limited official merchandise that likely barely sees the light of day.

I'm on the no nickname side, would absolutely love to have Fighting Sioux return, but I don't see it as any grand conspiracy. It would only make sense for the University to want to keep it, and it only makes sense that the NCAA would want the University to keep it. Not sure what point you're trying to make.

They have to maintain the trademark per the settlement. Could you imagine if they lost the trademark on the Fighting Sioux symbolism? You think it's hard to try and get a new nickname now. Very few would be buying anything actually produced by the university.

I'm a no nickname person, but I have to give you credit, your post really softened my stance when one is chosen (let's not pretend no nickname will make a vote, that boat has sailed). Amazing what happens when a well thought out poster states something without calling myself, and other no nickname supporters whining toddlers.

I haven't had one of those in the last fifteen years. That brings me back to the age of seventeen, so essentially, I've never had a lunch " hour ".

I'm always looking for signed 8 X 10's if anyone has one or two they'd like to part with.

That's an interesting point. I've never lived in Grand Forks, and although I was in sports that played against the schools I never really associated with the city, and really didn't associate the University with any real connection to the city outside of it being located there. I guess I would never draw the connection that your daughter did. For what it's worth, our choices for nicknames are exactly the same.

I could get behind something like this. I agree, the ND would need something to distinguish itself from Notre Dame. I also fail to see where using an arrow constitutes Native American imagery.

I don't believe anyone called that particular post out, but there have been several through the past couple days from several posters. I'm not going to name any one person, but it would probably be prudent for everyone to show a bit more humbleness when it comes to opinions. Edit: My bad just saw the example. So disregard my above comment. But I do believe that it's been a totality of posts more so than a single post.

Agreed. I'm in the no nickname side of things, not because I want to hold on to the Fighting Sioux as much as I've grown accustomed to being North Dakota. I actually think it'd be kind of cool to stay away from a nickname at this point because I can relate to the battle cry of, "We ARE North Dakota". Outside of that, I could live with Roughriders, and could tolerate Fighting Hawks. I despise Sundogs and NoDaks, and can't believe the nickname of our neighboring State is still an option, which really makes me question the intelligence of everyone on the committee and those individuals that like that name. To me, it's akin to going back to Flickertails and then adopting the Gopher logo.

Part of that divisiveness, in my opinion, comes from those in a certain crowd that keep referring to no nickname people as children throwing tantrums, and then turn around and attempt to hold some sort of moral high ground on the matter. It's laughable. You want civil discourse, don't make your comments come across as though you feel your are somehow superior to people of a differing point of view. Over the last two days, I've seen this perception play out over several threads, and it's akin to shouting down other posters. With that said, there are several on both sides that can carry a civil discourse, but I don't believe it's very difficult to figure out the posters I'm referring to.

Either throw out a name or keep your negative vibes to yourself.

Yes, two days after an onslaught of public outcry, that I'm sure has been falling right into his lap. Do you seriously think Kelly's personal wishes aren't a motivating factor for committee members? It's always been evident, right from the start that he wants a new nickname. It would be interesting to have seen how this process would have played out if he'd have said from the start that no nickname was fine, and if it came to that he would approve. Do you think it's possible that some committee members would score things differently? I personally do. But, we'll never know because this whole process has been as much of a circus of pathetic leadership as the original retiring of the Sioux nickname.