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They're working on it. https://www.inforum.com/opinion/columns/mcfeely-how-valuable-is-the-summit-league-conference-wants-to-find-out?auth0Authentication=true

TIL Bozeman had a legit D1 level rink not that long ago.. Montana State D1 hockey would have been really cool had they started a program in the 90's. Wonder if they woulda been stranded with the Alaska schools right now or if the conference landscape would have been completely different right now.

Yeah that game was pretty awesome. Something like 7.5K in attendance if I remember correctly. I think pushing the court to one end could work best for size/environment if a curtain could be rigged up behind the scoreboard somehow. Would likely look bad when stored up in rafters though.

Do you remember if the Herald covered this? Kinda want to see if I can find an old article about this. Seems to have been common knowledge. Would also love to see the original plans, and it would be interesting to know if UND had any say in that change.

Location. Oh, wait, looks like he's transferring from the University of Washington, where he's from, all the way down to San Luis Obispo. Also, I said that location isn't an excuse, not that it isn't hard if facilities are in place. UND FB doesn't have facilities in place yet anyway.

You are the one speaking on it as if you know for certain it's fact. As such, if you're actually interested in having a worthwhile discussion, the onus is on you to support your claim with anything beyond an insult.

The REA can also finance the practice facility the same way the Betty was financed.

I get where you're coming from, but college basketball players will be back home within five years anyway, and they for the most part aren't worried about the considerations that families with kids have. Adults with normal jobs benefit from being near grandparents who want to see the grand kids, and can help with daycare, etc. Basketball transfers, specifically, are usually only looking at a few years at most, and many times it's only a season or two. I don't think the two are very comparable. I guess something that is comparable, imo, is moving far away for an opportunity (playing time for P5 transfers).

"WE" weren't only talking specifically about the portal. I wasn't talking to you. My comments were specifically about location, for all types of recruiting. Also, you're upset I quoted you a bunch, but here you are saying that the discussion was only about the portal - you posted about our HS recruiting only 3 hours ago and in the same general discussion. That's why I quoted you! Of course the other Summit schools would look at the same recruits, because they are nearby, we compete directly against each other, and they also live in a cold climate. Location is an excuse for having worse basketball support and facilities than all of the schools you named above except for St. Thomas, which is obviously unique as they are in the Twin Cities. I'd love to see that data that shows location being the number one priority for P5 transfers. If you can't cite your source, please don't insult me and tell me to ask coach about it.

How about you just clearly state your argument and support it with facts instead of wasting everyone's time? This thread is for all recruiting concerning UND basketball, but you think it's unfair to compare ORU's facilities to UND's, because it's irrelevant? Rather than making insults, can you please just tell us what the coaches would say since that seems to be a huge point you want to make?

My point was pretty clear. Read it again if you wish. The context was our location and how it affects recruiting, in general. Notice I didn't specifically mention P5 recruits or quote you. However, recruits commit or choose not to commit for many different reasons, and not all transfers or high school kids are the same. Better facilities do always help though. You said I'm clueless, though, so please correct me if that's incorrect. Oh look, you were talking about us getting HS recruits that aren't good enough - but you said we were talking about P5 transfers (not HS kids)? How about you just clearly state your argument and support it with facts instead of wasting everyone's time? This thread is for all recruiting concerning UND basketball, but you think it's unfair to compare ORU's facilities to UND's, because it's irrelevant? Rather than making insults, can you please just tell us what the coaches would say since that seems to be a huge point you want to make?

Thanks for proving my point.

Facilities and better program support > Location. Location is a terrible excuse. If we had good facilities and we still couldn't recruit, ok, sure, location. Blaming location right now is lame, because the facilities and support that UND basketball has now is basically the bare minimum for a D1 basketball program. Football can out recruit other D1 schools and they have the same recruiting footprint - location isn't what's keeping the basketball program from being competitive. Pretty sure 4-5 guys FROM ND or SD have transferred out of the program over the past 2-3 years, but location...

You're ignoring the fact that "other people's money" isn't needed for a buyout that only costs 80k.

Sounds like they should be careful what they wish for.

If Fargo media got their wish, would WDAY lose their right to broadcast every conference game?

Jan. 17, 2023 St. Thomas receives record-setting $75 million gift to build new sports arena on campus Esten said the Anderson’s gift puts the school 60% toward its fund-raising goal of $131 million. If donations fall short, new UST President Rob Vischer said the university will finance the rest. The project cost includes demolition of three buildings on UST’s South Campus in St. Paul to make room for the arena – McCarthy Gym, an intramural facility; Cretin Residence Hall, built in 1895 and remodeled in 1989; and a service center. Esten said UST added basketball to the plan last July after abandoning efforts to build the arena in the Highland Bridge development in Highland Park. Men’s and women’s basketball play on campus at 1,800-capacity Schoenecker Arena, one of the Summit League’s smallest venues. Both teams need more seating to generate additional revenue and attract better non-conference opponents. “As we pivoted from Highland Bridge and looked at bringing hockey to campus, we looked real hard at whether it would work for basketball as well,” Esten said. “We just thought it made financial sense, and it was economical prudent to double down on that and make sure that those facilities are used in an efficient way.”

Jan 24, 2023 Top administrators aren't just showing up for Omaha sports, they're promoting them On Thursday night, Jan. 12, more than 200 former UNO football players gathered at a Maverick basketball game at Baxter Arena. The old Bulls hung out in the end zone, hugging teammates and friends they hadn’t seen in years. They drank. They told stories. They were introduced to the crowd at halftime. Then they went back and stayed until the end. On the next night, at the UNO hockey game, NU President Ted Carter hosted a tailgate party on the practice ice at Baxter for the bigger boosters and “key stakeholders” of UNO. Chancellor Joanne Li also attended, along with athletic director Adrian Dowell. The football reunion went so well that Dowell says they want to schedule more events with former football players. Trev Alberts set the table. But he couldn’t do this as athletic director. He couldn’t bring the football players and wrestlers — who all have check books — back into the fold. It’s been a while since we’ve seen such stability and teamwork at UNO. Maybe the Del Weber and Don Leahy days. But the stakes are higher now. A hockey arena must be filled. A Division I men’s basketball team must pull its weight. Standards for NCAA Division I membership keep evolving. UNO has to keep up. I don’t know what the ceiling is for UNO sports. With only 16 NCAA hockey bids, it’s hard for Mav hockey to make the tourney on a regular basis. Harder still for the basketball team in a one-bid league. But with this kind of administrative support and alums standing together, Dowell’s department has a chance to find that ceiling. Or create a new one.

AUGUST 20, 2022 Miami (OH) AD Sayler: End of NCHC, CCHA possible “I don’t know what the single-sport conference future is,” Sayler said. “With all the stuff going on at the NCAA level right now, there’s been tons and tons of dialogue about pushing decisions down to the conference level and the NCAA not sort of putting edicts out that everybody could get sued because of antitrust reasons. So if conferences are going to be making decisions and conferences are going to be managing compliance and academic eligibility and enforcing infractions and setting punishments, I don’t know that a single-sport conference is set up to handle that. In fact, I know that none are. So would the NCHC and the CCHA be able to exist as they do today? I know the schools in those leagues don’t have robust compliance departments to deal with these issues – they’re not even Division I athletic departments in some cases. So I don’t so much look at it as the choices of being NCHC or CCHA, I look at it as being: Is the future going to dictate that we need to be in an all-sport conference for hockey?” “So what I’d say for everyone to watch for is how does this all unfold without the NCAA structure system, and then once that has time to happen, then the next step is going to be: What does that do to hockey and these set-ups that they have?” Sayler said. “The Big Ten is already there. If you had three all-sport conferences sponsoring hockey away from the east coast I just think it strengthens the sport. So that would be my goal, I would like to strengthen college hockey and bring it more inline with other sports.” “Long term, I think the thing to really watch for is: Will the Summit League want to sponsor hockey – which is an all-sport Division I conference? Will the MAC consider sponsoring hockey, which is an all-sport conference that we can populate?” Sayler said. “Those are things in the future that if single-sport conferences don’t really have a place, those D-2 and D-3 schools would really benefit from being in an all-sport conference because of all these things that are coming down from the NCAA.” “Whenever the league throws out a doomsday scenario, it usually involves four schools being in the Frozen Faceoff in St. Paul: Miami, Western (Michigan), CC and Denver. Because then you have no local team participating, right?” Sayler said. “You don’t have any of the Minnesota schools, you don’t have North Dakota. Sometimes I do sit back and say, how does that make us feel, that we’re a member of this conference but yet a doomsday scenario is us being good? So there is some concern for that, and that tournament in St. Paul, plus the round of playoffs to get into that tournament are probably the most important revenue-drivers of the league. And Miami has the smallest rink in the league and we would probably sell as few tickets as any team in St. Paul, in the league. It does set up kind of funny that way when you start thinking about having more success and not driving more revenue for the league, and what is the league really focused on? And there has been constant chatter about Arizona State, and I just have no interest in crossing another time zone to play sports. So if the league is going to continue to push that direction, that is certainly something that would cause us to think differently about what’s going on.” “We’re going to keep Miami hockey in a strong position and keep growing it back to what it needs to be,” Sayler said. “That’s something I’m committed to. I enjoy hockey games and my son plays travel hockey so I’ve spent a lot of time at that rink and I want to see Miami get back to what it was, whether it’s in this league or any other league.”

General 11/16/2022 2:00:00 PM Summit League partners with College Sports Solutions, LLC Story LinksSIOUX FALLS, S.D. – The Summit League announced today a partnership with College Sports Solutions (CSS) to conduct an operational review and help facilitate the creation of a strategic plan for the 10-member conference. “The future is bright for the Summit League and the partnership with CSS is going to help us create a plan that will enhance the experiences of our student-athletes and fans, while serving as a road map for our future,” said Commissioner Josh Fenton. “We look forward to working with respected intercollegiate athletics veterans Jeff Schemmel and Kevin Weiberg to build a dynamic strategic plan that will strengthen the League as a whole.” The CSS team is led by its founder and president, Jeff Schemmel. He has more than 30 years of intercollegiate athletics management experience at the highest levels, including a stint as the athletics director at San Diego State before he founded CSS. “Our team at College Sports Solutions looks forward to working with Commissioner Fenton, his conference office team, and the member institutions of the Summit League,” said Schemmel. “This is an important time for Division I athletics and its conferences. Having a substantive and meaningful strategic plan, with the ability to adjust to and capitalize on the continuing changes in college athletics, is critical. We look forward to helping the Summit League grow and prosper.” Joining Schemmel on this project is former Big 12 Commissioner Kevin Weiberg, who brings extensive knowledge and experience in the conference operations space after also serving in various roles at the Big Ten and Pac-12 throughout his career. “Having experienced support is critical to the long-term success of the Summit League,” said Dr. Jeremy Haefner, Chancellor of the University of Denver and Chair of the Summit League’s Presidents Council. “I look forward to seeing the results of the partnership with College Sports Solutions, and all it will do to strengthen the programs of Summit League schools.” The Summit League’s Presidents Council approved the hiring of CSS, who is scheduled to have its comprehensive work completed by late May and present those findings at the League’s annual meetings. Along with CSS, the League will integrate all member institutions within the strategic planning process. About College Sports Solutions “College Sports Solutions (CSS) is a leading full-service and integrated provider of collegiate athletic consulting, strategies and solutions to universities, intercollegiate conferences, and collegiate organizations. Areas of service include comprehensive assessments and evaluations, including organization, staffing, operations, risk management, compliance, academics, fundraising, student-athlete welfare/experience, Title IX/equity, strategic branding/marketing, public relations, social media, crisis and media management, coach and administrator executive searches, championship event planning and execution, NCAA reclassification, and conference affiliation planning and execution. Its team of industry-leading professionals is unmatched in college athletics

This is a thread for general Summit league strategy and opeartional news. Josh Fenton has been with the Summit League for nearly a year now, and we are yet to see him make a move. It has been reported elsewhere that they are reviewing their TV/Multimedia strategy, but there are other potential developments up in the air, such as NIL, conference membership, sports sponsorship (Fenton has yet to shut down the concept of adding hockey or football). I'm creating this thread to keep track of interesting news tidbits and larger developments, because I think Fenton will make one or more big moves starting this spring.

I've done this in that past and become paranoid, thinking that I'm sitting there like a chump while they know I'm about to see us get blown out lol. My advice is to get a Roku. With the Roku, you can just click the button for account settings and there will an on off button for starting the game live or in progress. On off button for the scoreboard as well. If you don't have mental issues, getting help would probably work just fine

Completely agree. I may have my opinions, but I'm open minded. Herbst has put in the time and is deserving of an opportunity. If he can take advantage of that opportunity and show that he's a difference maker, great! If the decision has already been made and the plan is for UND to move on at the end of the season, the only real difference is that Herbst would be denied an opportunity (if Chaves waits), and it's not like he isn't qualified - he was Chaves finalist to this exact job.