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Trying to move this discussion from the non-UND Football thread... Bison06 said: “You'd be wrong if you think the organized group BLM is simply about the phrase Black Lives Matter. When you think about it, it's actually an incredibly clever name to call a group. Disagreeing with their stated views immediately paints someone as a racist. Check out where Act Blue leans politically“ if you don’t believe him, enter “blacklivesmatter.com” and see where the Donate button takes you...

Hayduke, I do not know whether you are the CEO of a multinational corporation or posting from your mother’s basement. If you are a twenty-something or retired. I gather from your posts that you are a radically liberal, while I am a right leaning independent. That said, if Biden is elected President of the United States, I will give him the respect that is due him in his position as the President. Unlike your alphabet media led cult that was out in the streets, demonstrating and whining ‘not my president’, needing days off from work or school because you were so devastated that you couldn’t even go to class to listen to some liberal professor lecture about how Trump was not his president either. As when Obama was elected, as an American, I respect the officer, even if I disagree with his policies. You have not shown the same respect and really have demonstrated the opposite. [p.s. if Biden is elected and then the Democrat party subsequently decides to remove him from office because he is showing signs of senility, I just might go out into the streets and join demonstrations that Kamala Harris is not my president ]

This is why I believe everyone should stand at attention for the National anthem

Abortion should not be the go-to For birth control. How about better distribution and education of other contraceptives?

If it is SUU (or any other BSC school), what happens with their football program? Doubt BSC will let them stay (nice even number of 12 teams without them). Will they drop football? Will they go independent? Will the WAC restart a football conference? (SUU would be the 4th football team - NMSU [FBS], Tarleton and Dixie [FCS] are currently independent). Obviously that would mean they have to find at least a couple more teams, and NMSU will fight dropping to FCS.

Would you say “please sir, may I have another”? or curl up in the fetal position like the other antifa tough guys when they are challenged and not ganging up on a 17 year old?

Not about Joe Biden but about the Democrat leadership that I fear will be telling Biden how to think... I do not understand why the Democratic leaders of Congress knelt in the halls of Congress for about 9 minutes, for the death of a black man named George Floyd and other persons. I have never seen them kneel for a fallen Police Officer, for a fallen Soldier or for the soldiers left to die in Benghazi!! I have never seen them kneel for the thousands of (black and white) babies aborted EVERY DAY. I have never seen them kneel for a murdered white man or woman. I have not seen them kneel for the thousands of black-on-black murder victims. I have not seen them kneel for the thousands of elderly people that died in nursing homes due to the Corona Virus. I have to ask: WHY are Democrats putting the life of George Floyd as more valuable than the lives of everyone else? In fact, Democrats have put so much value on the life of George Floyd, they have allowed rioting, looting, arson, murder and mayhem in communities Nationwide... This is for a guy who was arrested NINE times; was a convicted drug dealer; held a gun to the stomach of a pregnant lady while his five buddies robbed her home; did prison time three different times totaling about eight years and obviously didn't learn from our penal system And America is memorializing him by painting murals of the guy on the sides of buildings like he's a hero? Unbelievable!! You got to be kidding me. And to pour salt in the wound, Pelosi presented his brother a folded American flag flown over the Capitol in his honor in a beautiful tri-cornered presentation case. A flag that should be reserved to honor those who have served America with honor. (think fallen soldiers and first responders) Don’t get me wrong, I am not justifying George Floyd’s death at the hand of a police officer, but what is wrong with this picture?

Thank you for taking the time to explain why you feel how you do about Trump. This is much more informative than Hayduke’s name calling. While I would agree that Trump is, what my wife and I called in 2016, the angry old white man’s candidate, I would like to consider myself a nationalist. Hopefully not a racist. Yes, he appeals to the bigots and LCD, as you call them, but his bravado and willingness to be a businessman in a political world put America back on a better economic foundation. He made tough decisions that even his own political party shuddered to support. Why should the United States be the funding source for things like the Global Climate Accord when places like China are far worse offenders and yet do not pay their fair share? In that sense, I agree that we should take care of our own before handing out billions of dollars to countries that hate us and always will. I will beg to differ on the source of the divisiveness we are seeing, although not disagreeing that Trump has done nothing to quell the division. From day 1, when he announced his candidacy for president, he has been continually attacked by the mainstream media sources. My feeling is that the media has been the fuel to the radical division of the country, both sides - CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS and FOX. It has caused painful family fights and long time friendships have been ruined because of what is going on in Washington. I have tried to find a neutral fact-checking source but if they are not as liberal as snopes.com, they are as conservative as FoxNews. In a country of 340 million people, we should be able to come up with better candidates to be the leader of the free world. I was as never Hillary as Hayduke is never Trump and cannot find a good reason to vote for Biden. His 47 years in the political arena as someone who bends whichever way the wind blows does not inspire any confidence in him or his willingness to be a tough negotiator with China, N Korea, Russia or Iran or even the far left wing (that seems to have taken over) of the Democrat party. That said, I have believed from the beginning of this epidemic of Coronavirus, that Trump was bringing jobs back to the USA and reducing our dependence on China. That pissed them off and they decided to go to war against us economically. The rest of the world is just collateral damage in their vengeance. They have succeeded and have crippled our economy by shutting us down and taking away our humanity/individuality with mask mandates (like they have done in their extremely polluted cities). I really feel that Trump will be better at restarting our economy than the socialist tendencies that have populated the Democrat platform. My apologies for this getting so long. I will get off my soapbox now.

He must have been paying close attention to the Clintons and Obama

Either you didn’t take me seriously about being willing to hear your side or you don’t have an answer. I thought asking for 3 examples over 35 years in the Senate was something you could do to demonstrate why you are so supportive of former VP Biden. I am not committed to Trump, and actually would be willing to listen to well thought out reasoning to support Biden. As it stands, I am disappointed that you are not able to ‘verbalize’ why Biden should become President other than orange man bad. Saying it is a long list or to do my own research (which I have done and gave you one more example than you were able to provide to me) and then again resorting to calling me a cultist really fits with your history of deflecting, not answering the question and responding by attacking anyone who does not agree with your view. Your lack of an answer just makes me think that the media has drafted you into their brain-washed viewpoint. And, by the way, I am not SiouxFan97

I will be open minded... Joe Biden has been a Senator since 1973 and served 6 terms until he became Vice President in 2008. That is 35 years as a lawmaker for the United States. To Hayduke, UNDlaw, Mikejm, Redneck, BWSE, and anyone else who would like to help Hayduke (since he or she is the most vocal anti-Trump voice on SS)... Please cite 4 significant laws that Biden authored (not something he signed on as a co-author that some other Senator wrote or that was proposed by Republicans that he opposed) during that 35 years that has improved our lives. Basically 1 for each 10 years he has been in office. Since one of those 10 year periods is only 5 years, I will give you a head start ... Biden wrote a 1994 Violent Crime Law, which was also called the Violence Against Women Act. This leaves 3 as your homework. In reference to his comment, that “If you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black”, extra points for anything that improved the lives of minorities (Native Americans, Blacks, Hispanics or Asians). I will be away from the internet for the rest of the day, so that gives you time to find answers. Please also post references so I can research and verify these pieces of legislation.

Good. I am happy to hear that. I don’t believe there are 3 million undocumented voters, but you should be citizen with a voter ID to vote. And everybody that can legally should vote.

Does this include illegal aliens, or as you would call them, undocumented workers? Is your position that they can vote? asking for a friend

Nine people, but how many ballots? now, since California has invaded Colorado, I do believe they would be voting a Democrat anyway, but nine people convicted does not mean each only altered or discarded one ballot.

I think what he is saying is that it will take a two-third majority of the states to repeal the electoral college

Which ones? Maybe divorces? idk

Yeah, there is no bias in the media... ABC NEWS EXECUTIVE PRODUCER IAN CAMERON IS MARRIED TO SUSAN RICE, OBAMA'S FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER. CBS PRESIDENT DAVID RHODES IS THE BROTHER OF BEN RHODES, OBAMA'S DEPUTY NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER FOR STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS. ABC NEWS CORRESPONDENT CLAIRE SHIPMAN IS MARRIED TO JAY CARNEY, FORMER OBAMA WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY. ABC NEWS AND UNIVISION REPORTER MATTHEW JAFFE IS MARRIED TO KATIE HOGAN, OBAMA'S FORMER DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY. ABC PRESIDENT BEN SHERWOOD IS THE BROTHER OF ELIZABETH SHERWOOD, OBAMA'S FORMER SPECIAL ADVISER. CNN PRESIDENT VIRGINIA MOSELEY IS MARRIED TO TOM NIDES, FORMER HILLARY CLINTON'S DEPUTY SECRETARY. THE GOVERNOR OF MICHIGAN USED TO WORK FOR GEORGE SOROS. CALIF GOV. GAVIN NEWSOM IS NANCY PELOSI'S NEPHEW. JOHN KERRY'S DAUGHTER IS MARRIED TO A MULLAH'S SON IN IRAN. delete per The Sicatoka: HILLARY'S DAUGHTER CHELSEA IS MARRIED TO GEORGE SOROS' NEPHEW. ADAM SHIFF'S SISTER IS MARRIED TO GEORGE SOROS’ SON.

Did anyone else notice the hawk on the alumni association homecoming email? Not sure if it looks more like a hawk or eagle, but wonder if it will ‘stick’.

Will any FCS conferences follow? MVFC? Big Sky?

18% of pregnancies end in abortion. that is 18,000 per 100,000 pregnancies

Yep... peaceful protest.

No! I am not saying rapists are ok. Wow! Talk about a cult member! Take off those anti-Trump glasses and see Biden for what he really is. Trump is no saint, but apparently Biden is, in your view. The truth is that these are our only options. The third party candidates might be better options, but even Teddy Roosevelt couldn’t get elected on a third party ticket. I shudder to think that a man who can’t complete a sentence would be the leader of the free world. You keep denying the words coming out of his mouth and repeat the allegations of the Democrats and the media. Then when you don’t have a good rebuttal, you resort to name calling, like ‘Trumptards’ or cultists. Yes, you hate Trump, but he is our President. And probably will be for 4 more years.

Women are bad enough... Child abusers are one of the worst predators out there. and no, I am not a big fan of Trump, but there is no way I can vote for a person who is fondling little girls.

If you have any daughters, how could you vote for this person?