JohnboyND7

While I agree it looks bad, and in my opinion, I won't be surprised if he was in the wrong, it is really hard to stay calm, cool, and collected in any situation when drunk....which I imagine he was. I mean...there has been a time or two when I have been 21 where I have almost ran from house parties because I forget the fact that I am doing nothing wrong. LIke I stated above, I imagine it would be an odd situation. You just KO'ed a dude......even if he really deserved it, I imagine it would not be a fun situation to be a part of, I'd probably panic and try to get away as well. Some of it may even come down to generational gaps.....my dad's idea of police and mine are extremely different because of how the police handle things now vs. the 80's.. Once again, I will not say Mr. Beck had a good reason to do what he did or not...I just really don't know enough....I don't think many people do at this point. He is in a sticky spot though and I do not envy what he is dealing with at all. If he is innocent, then I'd like to see plenty of articles talking about how he simply defended himself, it really isn't fair if he is innocent that his name is getting pulled through the mud, but if he is guilty, no pity for him at all.

Beck said he hit the guy til he went down. If that is the case, it really doesn't matter if the dude was unconscious. Now if the guy went down and Beck continued to pummel him, then I think you'd have a point.

No one has said Beck didn't hit the guy. If he guy hit beck first, then Beck is entitled to fight back...not saying he should have or shouldn't have.

The video evidence that apparently is out there will show what did or did not happen.

You are upset that a young man may in fact not be guilty of a felony? Is there something wrong with having your rights defended? Umm....yeah, he is a two-year starter and a pretty good one at that. His backup, regardless of who it is, does not have nearly the experience Beck does.

I agree, even in the bad Bohl seasons, the Bison were in those games and were at least in position to maybe win....and he had recently proven he could put together teams that were more than capable of winning. Mussman has provided UND fans with mediocrity.

Well, I'd hope for his sake the video shows the other guy came at him, in which case, that gentleman is an idiot for wanting to go at it with an NDSU linebacker. And yes, I wish he'd just walked away, unless that wasn't an option, which without knowing details I can't imagine it was NOT an option. Just talked to a kid who was downtown the other night this took place. He said he saw a circle of people similar to a 1980's movie high school fight. He didn't see what was going on, for all he knew he said it could have been something completely unrelated. If this was a fair fight between two dumb drunks, I'd have to feel at least a little bad for Mr. Beck, not his fault he is a tough son of a gun in that case

If Mr. Jensen played in an offense where his job was to win games with his arm who knows....I personally don't see him as that guy but thats ok. Nothing wrong with recruiting other positions well enough to the point that the QB only has to make sure to be a quality player. Are we going to talk smack about the recent Alabama QB's whose job it was to hand the ball off and occasionally throw some play-action because they didn't throw the ball around the yard? It cannot be stated enough that the Big Sky is an offensively driven league. UND struggled bigtime against the two or three good teams they played in Big Sky play....depends on your definition of better FCS QB's I suppose. This is not me trolling btw.

Who knows. If he is indeed guilty of what he is being accused of, I don't want him on the team. I don't think many NDSU fans would. Even if he was provoked, or had a good reason, he still should realize that he is an exceptionally talented football player on a national championship caliber team. I'll let the courts figure that out, if this dude punched him first, then I feel like Mr. Beck has at least a reason to pound on him. I dont know how many minors he has gotten, I don't think that minors are a big deal, I am the same age as him. Fun fact, kids drink nowadays just like they did when posters on here were young. Kids run. I ran when I got a minor, I was just lucky enough to not get charged with fleeing or resisting. I believe he ended up getting that charge dropped.

Feel free to keep moping about it.

Quite the common area for people to congregate when it is time to catch a cab home. At least thats where we usually agree to meet if some of us head up to Rooter's or something.

Yeah.....sorry bro but thats not going to happen. They got better things to worry about.

Someone is still sour grapes about it. Pardon me for using the wrong word. It'd be best if you'd get over it. Rick just implied that Bohl and Taylor don't have a policy on violence when I believe that they do. If Mr. Beck did what he is being accused of doing, I imagine he has played his last down as a Bison.

I believe they said the voter stuff was different from crimes of violent, drug-related, or sexual nature.

He's toast. I really don't care about the minors....but aggravated assault...unacceptable.

Winning.

Jeez, go on vacation for a week and come back to some siouxsports infighting about dads and stuff. Goodness gracious.

Gameday at the FFD is a holiday. SDSU games are particularly fun. Come check out what kind of gameday experience a quality FCS program is capable of putting on.

Tough to be the flagship when the school an hour away is the same size and is very similar academically. You can say "UND is THE flagship" all you want, it doesn't make it so. I don't think we have 7/11 's here.

Thats cute that you are stuck in the 1950's when UND was a flagship.

basketball has a ton of games. B1G is also one of if not the best conference. I doubt they'd incorporate it in basketball. If they look at (gasp for darell) RPI, I'm sure they'll still grab local teams. I don't think this will work out bad for the B1G, because it should boost their strength of schedule. The bad MAC teams are still better than the bad MVFC and Big Sky teams that they are currently scheduling. It probably really cant hurt the top programs. They will all have to pay these MAC teams more than the FCS teams they have been scheduling...since now the smaller schools at least hold some of the cards. I do think it will not benefit the bad B1G schools like Minnesota, Indiana, lllinois, etc. because they are likely to get another occasional L on their already pretty sad football existence B1G team, currently, still has a shot at the 4-team playoff. A two-loss team from the B1G is going to have trouble justifying the two losses unless that loss came against another top-10 team.

I think he meant teh hockies players who actually played in teh league in the US where the canucks play, not the nazi guy.

Glad you are content being compared with a school who has had something like 4 playoff games in their history. No. No one honestly believes that. If they do though, they'd be in an extreme minority. App State caught Michigan off guard. It was awesome. Oregon also beat Michigan by 30 the following week. I don't know why anyone would have thought leading up to that Montana game that UND couldn't win. Montana was garbage last year.

A.) I have yet to meet a fellow 'SU fan who actually thinks NDSU would beat Alabama. B.) Sagarin and RPI are both fun to look at. I like Sagarin's football stuff a lot. Seems to do an OK job comparing the two different levels of football. I would say doubtful because UND's defense was awful. Truly awful. Colorado State wasn't good by any means but UND didn't win a single game against a team that was better than them. Mind filling everyone in on UND's record vs. FBS teams?

Using Darrell logic. NDSU beat YSU by about 50. YSU beat Pittsburgh handily. Pittsburgh had to really blow it against Notre Dame in 3OT. Notre Dame lost to 'Bama by 28. Using Darrell Logic. NDSU beats Alabama in a relatively noncompetitive game. SDSU beat Boise. Do you think that UND would only lose by 5 to Boise now or? Don't you mean you like the idea of choking on the "big stage" every year in front of a couple thousand fans?