JohnboyND7

Lol, SHE has a criminal justice degree I believe. Her 'SU brother runs the farm!

Congrats. I had a friend graduate Summa Cum Laude up in Forks yesterday!

Sell. 1-2. Worst Montana team in years gave UND all it could handle. SDSU does enough to win.

UND didn't win a game against Summit competition last year. Lost to NDSU(real butt-whoopin!), SDSU(close game though!), UMKC(at home), and UNO. Summit usually seems to have 2-3 teams who can say they think they got a good shot at the tourney. Isn't the Big Sky similar with Montana and Weber? SIU probably wouldn't vote for UND. They are MVC. Missouri State probably wouldn't vote for UND. They are also MVC. Some MVC teams don't like traveling to the Dakota's the way it is.

Fun fact. Yotes snagged a win against a playoff team. UND....well... Exactly.

you neglected the point at the end where he said reach a core number of schools. I'd be fine with that. I'd still rather NDSU get into the Horizon but hey, whatever gets our teams to the postseason is fine by me.

It'd just be people guessing. I don't think NDSU would take off to the Big Sky unless it was absolutely vital. MVFC is a wonderful home for football and I can't imagine NDSU wanting to leave that behind for the Big Sky. I'm sure you could have an interesting chat with Gene Taylor about it though! His opinion is a lot more important!

Eh, I was too young to be bitter about it. I like the midwestern feel.

They can say what they want. Maybe that was the case and they changed their mind from awhile back. A few years back the Big 10 wouldn't have probably taken Rutgers or Maryland. A few years back the Big East wouldn't have taken San Diego State. Re-Alignment has been an interesting thing. Are you of the opinion that UND-USD was more attractive than NDSU-SDSU?

Lower travel costs do allow for NDSU to spend money in other areas of the athletic department. The hatred towards the BSC comes from A.) being told no in favor of UNC, which probably made sense for them at the time. Obviously in retrospect, I'm sure the BSC would rather have had NDSU. The conditions on which UND got in seem to be quite different than when NDSU was working on getting in. I think having a conversation off the record with Mr. Fullerton would be quite interesting.

Someone is mighty uptight about a joke.

I would take the Summit's word over the UND administration. Never a good idea for a president or administration to admit that they didn't want the nickname in Grand Forks.

Agree to disagree

Would have been Ohio State vs. Notre Dame one would imagine...my Irish would have added yet another National Championship to the legend that is South Bend, Indiana.

What if UND goes 5-6?

Denver.

Isn't that the Catholic school in East Grand?

I imagine it would be tough for Grand Forks to support them no? Due to the fact UND has a pretty good product on the ice typically yeah?

Losing record. 4-6 vs. D-I competition. Two complete and total embarassments against EWU and Montana State. You are right though, that could change and UND could become more competitive, but what if Muss continues to hover around the 5-8 win mark from year to year? Do you keep him around.

Comparing the Fargodome from even 5-10 years ago to now is a bad idea, much less 20 years ago. Completely different things. Fewer tickets available for people now than then. The team willing to pay more gets the home game unless the other team is seeded. Only 5 seeds. It is going to more often than not result in NDSU receiving the game at home.

1960 is the year NDAC became NDSU. NDSU vs. UND in other sports is the reason Gene won't schedule? Really? Those sports allow for a lot more scheduling flexibility...and NDSU has absolutely crushed UND in basketball in 2 of the past 3 years. Volleyball? Sucks to lose to UND, but at the end of the day, its volleyball. Baseball? They split a series this year I think? Seems to me you are assume that things will go back to being the 1990's. Times are different. You think Chris Mussman is the answer to catching up to NDSU in football? I think everyone is aware that the playoffs will force a matchup at some point. Almost a guarantee when that happens it is in Fargo, in probably the most hostile venue in the FCS, with very few tickets available for UND fans.

Thats cute. Last time they played in the dome....I was 10 years old. You cherry pick two games that NDSU gave the games away in? Is that really how you want UND to win against NDSU? Mind telling us the +/- on the 3 years of basketball scores? Something like +40 in favor of NDSU? UND got absolutely blasted in football by teams that NDSU would have absolutely embarassed. If UND starts to kick ass in the FCS, it's probably because the few FCS powers that remain are already gone.

This would probably require UND to become consistently better or equal to EWU. I am not saying it won't happen, but I think that would be the most plausible way to grow a rivalry with the Montana schools. After all, those schools are not close to ND much less out here in Fargo/Grand Forks.

Proof? The real loser in no game is UND. Until they accomplish what NDSU has at this level, people will continue to perceive UND as a lesser football program.

People are going to be more interested in watching teams that are closer to home....especially good teams or teams with name recognition in there area....Montana...Montana State, and Eastern Washington. UND is an outlier and probably needs to do very well in the conference to get the games on tv like these other schools.