fightingsioux4life

This is what I have been telling people. The 2001 defense would have performed better, even with the disparity in athleticism. They were mean, nasty, tough and snot-nosed. They didn't want to give up first downs, let alone touchdowns. They didn't just beat you down, they beat you up. That is what I want at the FCS level as well. And if we have to give up some athleticism to get it, that is a trade off I am willing to make.

Tom Miller's puff piece in the Heraldo this morning tells you how low the expectations have sunk with this program: http://www.grandfork...icle/id/274502/ Really Tom? You really believe that? Wish I lived in your world. On second thought, no. What Mr. Miller doesn't get is if the program sets such a low standard as to be competitive with the bottom-half of the Big Sky Conference and just "accepts" losses to the top-half, we'll never be a Top Ten FCS program. But that is the biggest problem with this program right now; the expectations keep getting lowered to satisfy an ever-increasingly apathetic fan base. Follow Miller's half-baked standards and expectations and we'll be looking at attendance figures we haven't seen since the cold weather games at Memorial Stadium.

It's amazing. During our Division II heyday, volleyball was one of the weakest sports on campus. Now it's better than FB and WBB by a mile!

I could see us giving up 70+ at home vs. Eastern Washington. At Homecoming. In front of a bunch of alumni (including football alumni). And other prominent supporters of UND athletics and the institution itself. If that isn't the final nail in Mussman's UND coaching coffin, I don't know what will be.

I think we have Sac St. at home. That might be winnable. But based on what I have seen vs. the Montanas, I just don't know.

Okay, I can do that. No shortage of threads to vent on. I deleted my original post and moved it to the "Fire Muss" thread.

I don't see that happening. The Men's BB team, for the first time in a long time, looks like conference title contenders. They will have to improve their road record.

This program needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. No more promoting from within. Get rid of absolutely everybody and let the new head coach build the program however he sees fit. This might convince the younger kids in the program now (the ones that aren't playing much now, but that have lots of potential) that it might be worth sticking around. We are a couple more dismal seasons from being a perennial doormat in the Big Sky Conference (dare I say Morningside). We must blow it up and start over. The cost of not doing this far exceeds the cost of doing it.

Okay, but they are inevitably connected.

If you are saying that, I believe that this team has truly hit rock bottom.

153 points used to represent a season-long total for our defense! And sometimes it was even less than that!

And 2+2=5

They are speaking more truth than our broadcasting team ever dares to speak. Because we all know what happens to anyone (Paul Ralston) who dares to tell it like it is.

Muss and his staff have lost the team. That should be the last straw.

The TD we gave up right before the end of the first half was very similar to the TD that ended the losing streak 20 years ago. Weird.

If we are down 35 points, I probably will head out early again. I also left early in game one when we had a huge lead over Valparaiso. In both cases, the outcome was determined, it was getting late and I had to pick up some groceries on the way home. Any other litmus tests you want me to take? One other thing, based on the effort (or lack thereof) we saw vs. Montana, what were the chances of a comeback like the one vs. South Dakota in 2011? Slim and none.

If you don't like the discussion.....don't read it!

You mean like this?

But we still have Eastern Washington coming up in two weeks. That could get real ugly if the defense doesn't improve at least a little bit.

I didn't know Luke Skywalker played in the NHL!

Agreed. I don't want the NCHC to have great teams that nobody knows about because we aren't pro-active in things like this.

Yeah, during my many trips to the Final Five, I noticed that the X has even higher prices than REA. $40 for a freaking bag of M&M's? I better get a whole case of M&M's for that! But my waistline doesn't need the calories.

Prices at REA are astronomical. I'll eat at home before the game whenever possible. I do like the fountain Coke, it is reasonably priced. But I generally avoid everything else.

IALTO!!!

Of course, this is the same person who, when we was with the sports division of the Heraldo, used to pick against UND all the time. If Bakken had been accurate, the team would have finished 3-8 or 2-9 year after year. Having said that, I guess I am not all that anxious about it. It will happen when it happens. It probably will happen in the playoffs before it happens in the regular season. My response to Bakken is this: Face it, not all UND fans are obsessed with playing FU again. I am one of those fans.