fightingsioux4life

Well, I guess he can't screw things up there because everything there has been screwed up for years anyway.

I am not sure what happened to him. All I know is that he was a total disaster for UND athletics.

AMEN. This is exactly the motivation behind the Nodaks campaign.

I guess I didn't specify who the culprits were; thank you for filling in those blanks for me.

Hey, if you have predictions of your own, feel free to share them. But savaging my predictions doesn't mean they WON'T come true.

Based on what I have seen and heard and read during this whole fiasco, this is what I think. Maybe I am right and maybe I am wrong. If you have any ideas of your own, please share them.

There will be exceptions to the rule.

Looking ahead to the run-off (which I think we will need), I think the two names that will survive the initial round of voting are Roughriders and Nodaks (Fighting Hawks has fallen out of contention). My thinking is that the Fighting Hawk and North Star voters will swing over to Roughriders and the Sundog voters will swing over to Nodaks. That should give Roughriders the edge in the run-off, as I believe there will be more voters in the Hawks/North Star camp than in the Sundog camp. Prediction: 60% Roughriders 40% Nodaks

It's called trying to stir the pot some more to get more sales out of this story before it dies out.

They should look in the mirror instead.

UND won a national title in FB in 2001. And was a national power until around 2005. And they still got treated like a red-headed stepchild.

+1000

For the record, I voted Roughriders. That was rather funny though!

I think we are talking about the chicken and the egg here. Which comes first? You cannot win without the resources for coaching salaries, recruiting budgets, etc. So the sure-fire way to ignore a program and justify that approach is to not give them enough resources and then complain they don't win enough so you can justify continuing to ignore them. It is hard to believe, but our FB program was once consistently ranked in the top 10 nationally (about 10 years ago). And they got very little in return. Poor marketing. Poor attendance. I believe this was one of the reasons Dale Lennon up and left for SIU when he did. They made a real commitment to their FB program and we wouldn't. That stuck us with Chris Mussman and we both know where that took us. Again, if we wanted to continue ignoring all sports except Men's Hockey, we should have stayed in Division II. Sometimes, I wonder if we moved up because NDSU and SDSU moved up. That is never a good reason to make a huge jump like the jump from Division II to Division I.

One VB victory does not prove my point wrong. Anyone who thinks NDSU hasn't owned us over the past 10 years in terms of winning, media coverage, marketing and whatever else is important to intercollegiate athletics is living in fantasy land.

So all of this is a zero sum game? Trying to lift all of our programs to a certain level of excellence is an attack on Men's Hockey? What a crock of crap that is! You are proving my point for me. Thank you.

What I am sick of is the attitude of some (and I emphasis the word some here) Men's Hockey rubes that as long as Men's Hockey is happy, nothing else matters and if everything else goes down the sewer, that is just fine with them. The divide is real, it is not a myth. And it doesn't do our campus any good. Ultimately, all of us should be on the same side and on the same team, whatever the sport is. Don't think for one second that NDSU and other rivals don't use the whole "Hockey is all that matters" mentality when trying to beat us in the recruiting game ("Don't go to UND, all they care about is hockey and no one will care about your team. We'll treat you like royalty here"). The move to Division I in all sports was a waste of time, energy and resources if we continue this "Hockey is all that matters" approach.

You mean the Men's Hockey Team, right? Because we all know that is where this Nodak movement is coming from.

It's been a tough 10 years for everyone. And yes, the nickname issue has been around for decades, but it really didn't become critical until August 5th, 2005.

Most of the people voting Nodaks are either part of the Fighting Sioux Hardliner Club or don't like any of the other choices and thus want to protest somehow. Of course, some of the Fighting Sioux Hardliners will vote Fighting Hawks because of the "Fighting" and some will boycott the vote entirely. I still think Roughriders and Fighting Hawks will finish 1 and 2 and will advance to the run-off.

I just voted Roughriders.

It starts at 8am CT on Monday. So another 12 hours until the polls open.

Btw, how would you know my views on Bernie Sanders? I don't think I have brought him up on this forum. Just curious.

I have heard that tired old line so many times I don't even flinch anymore.