fightingsioux4life

There were many reasons he left. And no, it wasn't all about $$$$$. It was a lack of commitment to the program and the student-athletes in the program. We could have retained him if we gave him a decent bump in pay and promised him we would do more to promote and support what he was trying to do.

All jokes aside, the point people are making is that a lack of upper body strength can and will limit his professional career.

Very condescending response. You asked if I grew up under power lines. You made several derogatory comments about my intelligence. I would call that "attacking". Not that I care what you think about me, but it is quite funny that anytime anybody questions REA, you are quick to jump all over them with an "How DARE you" approach. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this issue.

Nice personal attacks son. Doesn't add credibility to your argument though. Now go back to sucking up to REA.

Be careful! Every time I suggest this on here, I get accused of "spending other people's money".

Then why are people soooooo worried about what she thinks or how "offended" she is? Why don't we focus on successful alumni who care about this place and want it to succeed? #simplequestions

Really? Next I suppose you'll drag up that old urban legend of REA being torn down if UND p!$$ed off the Engelstad family?

Because this spoiled rotten heiress doesn't run UND. Mark Kennedy does. Kennedy does not work for MISS McGarry. He works for the SBoHE and indirectly, the people of North Dakota. If MISS McGarry wants the UND President job, she can apply for it the next time it is open. Otherwise, she had better learn how to deal with people outside of her kingdom and bargain in good faith.

Allow me to give everyone here a snapshot of the big picture with regard to REA, its relationship to UND and the very real and serious consequences of this issue: Imagine that the contract split the revenues 50-50 between UND and REA starting in 2001. Imagine the extra revenues that would have resulted from that more equitable contract. Now imagine all the coaches salaries that we could have increased during the critical transition period from D-II to D-I. Imagine the coaches we could have retained with those extra revenues (Hint: I am talking about Dale Lennon). Imagine the assistant coaches we could have retained instead of losing them to lateral moves to teams in our own freaking conference (which happened to MBB just last week). Imagine Phase II of the HPC under construction or at least close to its fundraising goals instead of being a twinkle in our eyes. Imagine all the championships we could have won because we had more money to invest in FB and WBB. WBB made it to the D-II national title game in Rochester, MN in March 2001. REA opened in October 2001. FB won the D-II national title on December 8th, 2001. After that point, FB and WBB had very good bordering on great teams, but couldn't quite get over the hump. This also was a time of six figure deficits in the athletic department, which Kupchella ordered solved IMMEDIATELY! Imagine what those extra revenues from REA could have done for both aforementioned programs? Gene Roebuck may have padded his legacy with 2 to 3 more national titles and UND FB might have been Grand Valley State instead of Runner-Up/Second-Fiddle/Stepping Stone U. The fact that all of this happened after REA opened makes me think it is more than a coincidence. And now the consequences become even more important today with regard to....... NDSU's increasing (and sickening) advantage in athletics fundraising, athletics success and national profile. The more they win, the smaller and more insignificant we look. This has to change soon, or we we will become "that other school in North Dakota" (just typing that makes me ill). More revenues will be crucial in preventing that. The reality of FCOA as a permanent part of intercollegiate athletics. We cannot simply conclude that it is not "feasible" to fund FCOA and resolve to do "more with less". That is a one-way ticket straight to permanent mediocrity. We will learn what it was like to be Morningside for all those years in the old NCC. More revenues will be crucial to meeting these needs. Our move from the Big Sky to the Summit League and MVFC. If our programs fall flat on their faces early and often in our new leagues, it will make our problems worse and harder to overcome. More revenue can help us establish a solid foundation for the future. The possible upcoming CFB shake-up with regard to divisional realignment and scholarship limits. If there is another division added to CFB (a G5 division split off of the P5), we will want to position ourselves to be in that new division, not stuck in the old (and further watered-down) FCS. More revenues will be crucial to making it happen. A more equitable REA contract would help make these problems easier to overcome and solve. Unfortunately, some people care more about soothing the hurt feelings of a rich heiress who lives in Las Vegas, NV and has admitted she doesn't care all that much about UND. I oppose that messianic "cult of personality" thinking and support doing something about this problem because I love UND, I cherish UND and I want a bright future for UND. The contract is a joke. It is wrong. It must be fixed. And it must be fixed NOW. (drops mic) (exits stage right)

Shhhhh, you might upset MISS McGarry! Then she'll order the demolition of REA! We can't have that!!!! (extreme sarcasm)

Excuse me? "Their money"? They make that money off the backs of the student-athletes on the Men's Hockey team. That money is supposed to support UND athletics. That was the whole point of building REA. REA is supposed to serve the interests of UND, NOT the other way around. If REA is skimming a bunch of that money off the top for their own benefit, then it is our business and no, they cannot "do what they want with it". REA, Inc. is not some for-profit business that is in it to make a bunch of money for its shareholders. It is a non-profit entity set up to manage REA and make sure it is carrying out its mission. And if they aren't doing that, Kennedy has the right and responsibility to call MISS McGarry out on it. It is entitled, spoiled brats like MISS McGarry that are the problem here, NOT UND and NOT President Kennedy.

If she doesn't want to donate anymore, that is her choice. Of course, once you play that card, you cannot play it again. Unless that rumor of REA being torn down is actually true........ If UND is getting screwed financially by REA, Inc., then Kennedy is right to point it out and ask for some changes. People who give money to an institution should do so because they believe in it and want it to succeed.....NOT because they think it will make them de-facto President.

No, we don't need that.

No, RALPH ENGELSTAD is our most prominent donor. But since he's dead, MISS McGarry is representing the foundation he made possible. And she is proving to be more difficult to deal with. Especially since she felt it necessary to point out that her dad was a UND alum, but no one else in the family is. The implication being she doesn't really care about our institution like her dad did. That doesn't sit well with me and others who love this place like a second home.

Some say in how the money is used? Sure. Wanting a constructive relationship with the institution you are donating to ? Absolutely. Running to the media whenever someone dares (DARES, I tell you) to question something in the current contract and DARES to suggest making it better for the institution that someone is paid to lead and look out for? Hell to the No! MISS McGarry is acting like a spoiled, entitled brat who inherited everything from her father. Ralph Engelstad didn't make a fortune in business by treating people like peons and threatening them in the media and/or in person. He built REA to make UND "the Notre Dame of college hockey". He didn't build it so that him and his family could run UND from Vegas. His daughter seems to have forgotten that. And that is sad.

So MISS McGarry gets to run UND from Vegas? Sorry, no dice. Kennedy doesn't work for MISS McGarry. He works for the State Board of Higher Education and, indirectly, for us.

Misogyny? I am talking about her approach and attitude towards UND. Which I don't like. And which I don't think makes her look good.

This is a key point. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in those meetings. Who knows what context those comments were made in? Someone is not telling the whole truth here.

I imagine T Boone Pickens doesn't take a huge cut of the revenues from his gifts. He gives because he wants Oklahoma State to be successful. That attitude seems to be missing in Vegas right now.

So that means they run the university? That means they can continue taking more and more of the financial pie? If the princess wants Kennedy's job, she should get it for about a month and she'll learn how hard it is. We can't demand a strong UND President that "gets it" and then demand he genuflect to every rich donor that runs to the Heraldo whining and crying because he had the unmitigated gall to question that donor about something. #makeupyourmind

REA was built to benefit and serve UND. UND does not exist to benefit and serve REA. I don't think the princess understands that. And since the princess went out of her way to point out that Ralph graduated from UND, but that no one else in the family did, I think it is more than fair to question her loyalty and commitment to this fine institution that we all care about. Kennedy is looking out for UND. Good for him. And the princess should think long and hard about why her dad built this arena. It wasn't to make UND all about him. #getoveryourself

#climaxfisherrule

This is a message board. Once you stick your nose into a conversation, you are asking for a response. Especially when someone is trolling for a reaction.

Berry did a masterful job with that team. Pushed all the right buttons all year and especially in the playoffs. Hak had teams full of NHL-caliber recruits that could not get the job done. Berry had the same assets and got the team over the hump. The recruiting does need to stay at a high level and that is a legitimate concern. But to discount what Berry did in helping us win #8 is asinine and short-sighted.

Very true. Shot location is just as important. You can shoot from the outside all you want, but 99% of the time, those shots will vanish into the goalie's glove or chest. Sound familiar?