Siouxperfan7

Well, since North Dakota did not get back on the list of names under consideration for a public vote, it will not be selected as UND's nickname (or lack there of). SO thankfully this thread can officially be shut down!!!

YOu know how you get rid of a terrible name and make sure it doesn't have a chance to win, vote for a different name. If you hate Sundogs, even if you aren't 100% on board with one of the other names, vote for something else.

There are many things that have been handled horribly in this entire process, the voting process laid out is probably the best thing we could asked for.

Sanctions only apply if no nickname is selected and UND goes by just "North Dakota". If UND picks a new nickname, wear all the Fighing Sioux stuff you want and yell all the Sioux chants you want. NCAA can't do anything because UND has selected a new name. UND can't control people embracing the new name.

Smart timing by NDSU to announce this 2 days before they play on ESPN. No doubt it will be brought up. Will be interesting if anyone at ESPN goes out to ask the Montana AD what their plans are? With Montana alum Brent Musburger calling the game, it would be interesting if he digs into to this!

So there is a chance that the NCAA may impose sanctions on UND if no nickname is selected and UND chooses to go by just "North Dakota." Is it a good chance, or is it far fetched....doesn't matter. No matter how much, you don't think that other schools UND recruits against are going to use that against us? Sure the chance is small, but it is out there and it will hurt recruiting. This is not a scare tactic. Coaches pull out all the stops when recruiting a player that is persued by another school. Why give other schools ammo against us?

This will deffinitely speed up the process for creating a 3 tier D1 in football. There will be the P5, the rest of the FBS and the FCS schools that provice FCOA, and the rest of the FCS that do not offer FCOA.

"We know we'll have it for the fall, we just don't exactly know what the dollar amounts are going to be yet,” he said. So am I to assume we will be hearing something soon?

Before everyone gets all in ahuff that UND didn't beat NDSU to the punch on this issue and claims we are one step behind them once again, this may actually be a time where it might be good to let NDSU make the first move and see what they are planning to do. It's not like UND has not already discusses this issue. And it's not like we are 2 years down the road and not offering FCOA. Let NDSU make their announcement, see how much they are offering, and make an informed decision. Just make that decision sooner rather than later!!

Forum article says that they estimate about $3,400 a year for full scholorship atheletes.

UND absolutely needs to match whatever NDSU is providing for FCOA. I think we can all agree on that. But will this athletic department finally step up and support other sports, especially football, they way they deserve to be treated and not just second string to hockey. I have to think NDSU and ND's athletic budgets are pretty similar. I guess we will wait and see at 10:00am to see what UND's next move will be.

Let's play the hypothetical game!! Let's just say that Kelley allows "North Dakota" to be back on the names under consideration, it gets overwhelming support in a public vote and is adopted as our new nickname. The people who wanted no nickname and just to be "North Dakota" will be happy and satisfied. They got what they wanted. Now I am just wondering how many of those people that supported "North Dakota" and voted for it in the public vote will act at UND sporting events. What will they yell when referring to the UND athletic team they are watching? Will they yell "GO UND", "Go North Dakota", etc. What will these sopporters wear to games? Will it be shirts and hoodies with the interlocking ND on them? Will they always refer to the team as "North Dakota"? If these supporters truley did support the cause and name they so passionately support, the answers to these questions will be "Absulutely"!! If that is what they really want, you won't see any of them, not a single one, wear anything, say anything, refer to any team, etc that says Fighting Sioux. These supports have said that picking "North Dakota" has nothing to do with trying to hold on to the old nickname. So I wouldn't expect anything but full support for just "North Dakota" from all these supportes and no reference of Fighting Sioux in anything they say, wear, or do. Right?!!

Fearmongering? Really? Question for you. If UND were to keep the Fighting Sioux name (without approval laid out in the settlement) would they be able to host an NCAA playoff game? Was that fear mongering as well? Hobe bout another non-UND related example. Did the NCAA allow post season games/tournaments/etc in the state of South Carolina when they had the confederate flag flwon at the capitol and in other locations within the state? These are real actual actions that the NCAA can and will enforce. Why? Because they have every rightto do so. Threats of sanctions are real and should be taken weriously.

We were all fans of the Fighting Sioux name. We all hoped things could be worked out so UND could continue to use it. That didn't work out. My question is why would we want to "keep the beloved Fightind Sioux (nickname) going"? What good is that going to do? I get it that some people have move on quiker than others. Suggesting that UND pick a name so people cannot not move forward is a horrible idea. We will all eventualy move on and accept a new name. Doing something that allows fans to hold on to the old name will never accomplish this.

I find find it pretty funny that last year our jerseys were too light and the helmets were too dark, and now this year it is the other way around!! How come other schools seem to be able to figure this out?!!

I don't mind seeing Studsrud start. If he is the best QB we have on roster, he deserves to start. That simple. If he struggles, it is nece to have 2 veteran backups that have been in the system that can step in and be sufficient. My money is on Studsrud getting the nod, but wouldn't be surprised to see Joe win it either.

I am comparring the jerseys from the above picture and the helmets of the below picture. Not the practice jerseys. TO me they don't match. Can't be the only one that sees this. I agree, we won't know wha they look like together yet. But just pointing out that there may be issues.

I like the jerseys, but does anyone agree that there still may be an issue with matching the helmets? The helmets look like a much brighter green now compared to the jerseys.

Unfortunately there are many others that are just as inimformed about this particular issue with the same opinion. And a few of them post on this site!!! (Even Portland State fans)

So what do you suggest? Everone to come to University park, stand under a banner of the nickname they support, and have everyone get in a big shouting match saying why they feel their name is better? I am going to vote for Roughriders. Do I need to come on here every day and tell people to support it? I have made a couple posts with my reasons why I support it and why others should as well. Is it productive to shove it down everyones throats every day (like the no nickname crowd is trying to do?) No. We all have our favorite and we will get to vote for that choice soon. If you are offende by snide remarks, you should probably stay off every message board!!

I think that most of that are in favor of UND picking a new nickname are putting a lot of faith that when it comes to a public vote, Sundogs will get very low support and that Kelley would never pick a name that finished dead last in stakeholder voting. SO unless Kelley picks Sundogs, there is no reason to freak out The problem with the no nickname debate is that a new name has not been selected. So the no nickname crowd comes off as complaining and not wanting to move on, etc. Now when a name does get selected and announced, then you at least have something to debate about. Either people will like the new name selected or not. If the no nickname crowd held a rally supporting just being North Dakota instead of say Sundogs, then you might have something that people could support.

These "Sioux were Silenced" organizers need to get free keg beer and free pizza at their next rally. Then the college students will come running!! Heck, call it Springfest and they will come out in droves!!

Ummmm......the other 6 choices currently are on te ballot. So why would there be a rally to support that?

Last minute?? According to the Sioux were Silenced Facebook page, they have been planning this event since August 12th!!