Siouxperfan7

Unacceptable. they should have narrowed it down to 5 species of hawks that we could all vote on. Narrow that list down to 3 and then have one more vote for the final 2. Seems like that would have been such a better idea!!

Eastern Washington mascot on the top, Miami Redhawks mascot below. (Ironically both named Swoop). I am guessing we get something similar to these.

Maybe the mascot can have no name to finally appease the "no nickname" crowd!!

Ugh...we have been over this literally a thousand times. No nickname means Fighting Sioux remains default, unofficial nickname. Something the University did not want.

So getting back to mascots, besides being for the kids to enjoy, mascots bring excitement during dull moments of the game and engage with the crowd to create an exciting atmosphere. If you get the right person (or multiple people likely) with a charismatic personality, the fans will feed off of that. as corny and hokey as people think mascots are, they do get the crowds at games going.

We all agree the list of "hostile and abusive" native american nicknames was ridiculous and an overreach by the NCAA. We all agree the Standing Rock tribe should have been given the opportunity to vote their approval of disapproval of UND using the Fighting Sioux name. We all agree that having to retire the fighting Sioux name and logo sucked (to put it lightly). We all agree that the entire process of selecting a new name was horrible and were upset the committee didn't follow their own guidelines by selecting something unique and relevant to the state of North Dakota. We all agree that Fighting Hawks is a bland, generic, just another bird, etc nickname. We all agree that they could have come up with a better logo. All of us as UND fans are in the same boat regarding the whole nickname fiasco. Where we differ is how we are dealing with it. There are things in life that don't always go according to how we would like them too. When that happens you can either feel sorry for yourself, get angry, take it out on others, etc. Or, you can realize that you cant change the past, accept the outcome, and move on. Yes losing the Sioux name was hard on all of us. But in the grand scheme of things in regards to relevance, it is not something that a person should be trying to deal with years later. It's not a death in the family, a child getting diagnosed with cancer, losing your job, losing your home to a fire. It's the nickname of your favorite college program changing. Just try to keep that in perspective.

Feel whatever you want. But when you have people on social media hijacking every single post with reference to the Fighting Hawks with "Sioux Forever", "post office logo" , "no one is buying this Fighting Hawks crap", or when you have "Sioux Forever" chants at hockey games, etc , that's where your feelings negatively affect the University. And that is what I have a problem with. If you can't deal with the changing of a nickname, that's your problem. Don't make your unwillingness to move on affect the rest of the world around you where many have.

Just as long as they aren't on the court/field when the announcement is made!

Suter is a top 5 defensemen in the league right now, and Parise is arguably the best player on our team when he is healthy. Those guys and their contracts aren't the problem. Trading away pics, many times first rounders, for players at the trade deadline that don't pan out and move on at the end of the year is our problem. Drafting players that don't fit the system of playing in the physical Western Conference that aren't build to win in the playoffs is the problem. Signing bad deals to average players is the problem. And the root of that problem was Chuck Fletcher. Wild need a rebuild. I think most Wild fans would take 2-3 years of missing the playoffs to eventually have a team that can contend for the Cup year in and year out as opposed to a team that is just good enough to llose 4-1 or 4-2 in the first round of the playoffs.

In the end, the University retired a nickname and logo. It is something that we all need to adjust to, but it is certainly not something that we need to heal from. We can remember and hornor the Fighting Sioux name, but it's not something that needs to me mourned that will take time to heal from. I am not trying to take anything away from the Fighting Sioux name and what it meant to people and what it represented. But in the end, its just a nickname and a logo.

My point is that it has been almost 6 years since the statewide vote to retire the Fighting Sioux name. The #siouxforever crowd wants to be coddled to and be treated with extra caution as to not offend them because they are not yet done with the grieving process. I think its pathetic. My comparison is that people get over deaths in the family quicker than people are getting over the loss of the Sioux name. It literally is a nickname of a college. That's it. There are much more important things to be pissed off at the world about.

I suggest Screech!!!

George H Bush has moved on more quickly from the passing of his wife Barbara who he had been married to for 73 years. And that was a week ago!!

My point is what you said. No matter what nickname and logo were selected, it was always destined to have opposition to it no matter what it was.For many, the Fighting Hawks name and logo is the visual representation of the fact the Fighting Sioux nickname is gone and never coming back. It represents all that went wrong in trying to obtain the Sioux name and the shortfalls UND had in gaining approval not just in the 3 year time as outlined by the settlement, but decades before. It reminds them every day the flawed process of trying to select a unique name with significance to the school and state and then coming up with a generic name. The reason why there are many that have yet to accept the name is they are relating all that history of the nickname dispute and focusing all that anger, frustration, anger, etc to the Fighting Hawks name and logo. People need to separate one from the other.

McMurry University was also on the NCAA list in 2005 that eventually changed its nickname. They went with a version of Hawks as well. Honest question. Is their logo so much better than the Fighting Hawks logo? Had UND chosen a logo like this, would it have been widely accepted and virtually eliminate the #siouxforever crowd? Would fans be demanding that it be on the front of the hockey jerseys?

Spending time and money going through the long drawn out process again that will result in the same reaction from the anti new nickname fanbase is not something UND is willing to do. It's not going to happen.

Yes. Make this happen!! Bout time Fletcher got canned. LOOOOOOOOOONG overdue.

Well if voting starts Monday, I would assume they would be released pretty soon so people have time to analyze each choice and debate the pros and cons of each option *edit: bitch about the choices.

http://und.edu/mascot A student-led committee has been taking the next step towards bringing a live mascot into the Fighting Hawks game day experience. The designs are almost complete, and we’re looking for the students’ input in making UND’s Fighting Hawk come to life! Voting will open for all students Monday, April 30 at 10 a.m. and will close Wednesday, May 2 at 9 p.m. The winning design will be announced on Thursday, May 3.

If you haven't heard about any fundraising, that should probably tell you something.

jdub27, where were you when the AD job was open? Should have thrown your name in the hat!!

especially the one on the right!!!

We can all be grateful that our mascot will not be an inanimate object come to life like an ear of corn!!!

I was hoping they would have Dixon Bowen on their foreshadowing a 9th Natty!!

Some peoples reaction to the new Fighting Hawks mascot