UND1983

That is exactly what I said. You basically repeated what I wrote and then said I was dead wrong. Huh? Bowden turned them into a national power, won 2 NC's, then over the next 10 years he didn't win a thing and was run out. Did we not just say the exact same thing?

My threads are not calling for Mr. Hakstol's head. I am trying to get into the thought process of this fan base and wonder why they are so complacent with 8th place finishes every other year when they have a Top 3 program. The only answer I have gotten is "who else is better"? Really, thats your answer? Like no other coach in the country could lead UND to an 8th place finish at the NCAA tournament in a division of 60 teams. NOBODY could possibly do that.

What move did they make in the middle of that drought?

Wrong to you. Go to Grand Forks and look around at the amount of snow in yards. Then go to Fargo. Its not even close.

Fargo has way less snow than Grand Forks, like a lot. The snow melted off Dacotah Field naturally. That was not happening in GF.

1. Florida State became a national power under Bowden and then at their peak won 2 NC's in 6 years. Then, once they were established as a national power, they didn't win a damn thing for 11 years. Guess what happened? Bowden was run out. The Alums were not happy with anything less than a NC. 2. Mack Brown is currently on the hottest seat in all of college football. They have not won a NC in 8 years and the natives are extremely restless. He had to fire his entire staff as a job saving measure. If that does not work, he is gone within a year or two. The Alums are not happy with anything less than a NC. My point is there is little to no restlessness in this fan base. I was always under the assumption that UND was the best program in the country, with arguments coming from Minnesota or BC or Michigan. I may have been wrong. When you lose twice in 4 years to Yale at the national tournament, I would expect people's angst to raise at least a little bit.

The standards have gotten low around here. Top 3 program in the country with the best arena in the land and simply making the NCAA tournament and being a regular season 'powerhouse' is enough these days to satisfy the fan base. Based on the rosters that each team has in the WCHA, it would be damn near impossible for UND to finish outside of the Top 6 every year in the league. They have 14 NHL draft picks. So they are going to get home ice pretty much every year, which they have. When a program is the bigtime, upper echelon program in its division, it usually wins a NC title every so often. Look at every other sport (BB - Duke, UNC, Kentucky....FB - Alabama, Texas, Florida, USC). And when those teams or other programs near their level don't win a national championship over a prolonged period: their coach is fired or run out or changes are made (see UCLA basketball, Florida State football). I guess I don't understand the complacency year after year when it comes to this program. There are multiple people pissed off on this board and want things shook up but there are more that love the way its going and are happy with the results. Losing in the NCAA tourney to teams that are not as good as you, year after year, is a bit of an issue IMO. I will add that I have no idea who a better coach would be. My point is simply from the surface, more pointed to how the fan base is reacting (or not reacting) to the continuous losses in the NCAA tournament.

UND fans weren't begging, pleading and speculating about getting a MVC invite. This has nothing to do with UND.

Makes a person wonder who far down the list NDSU actually was? Other than BV and the Bison Media Blog, nobody even had NDSU on their list of potential replacements, How embarrassing for NDSU fans.

No they shouldnt. He wins national championships. Those coaches dont get fired.

Big win for Weber on the road.

Didnt Buning hire Jones? Faison gave Muss an extension, which is still up for debate. Faison hasnt made a big program hire yet but his others look alright.

Faisons hires have looked pretty good so far. Some are still too new to judge but Hardee was an unbelievable hire.

Gleason has had roughly 5 negatives in row. No positives.

Joe Gleason cannot get the puck out of the zone. Man he sucks.

Looks like they got a pep talk...great job.

Ran into a "hot" goalie for the 7th year in a row. Talk about bad luck. I dont care if they still win, their is no excuse for losing to frickin Niagara through 2 periods of play. Embarassing

Canisius just hung 5 on these clowns.

Another solid NCAA tourney effort from UND.

Bjugstad looks pretty lethargic to me. Not doing much.

Looks like another Top 16 finish in the country. Maybe Top 8 if they really play well. Getting pretty old for a Top 3 overall program with zero excuses.

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Go look at who made the NIT and who didn't. NDSU was not getting in. They took big name programs from big name conferences. RPI rankings obviously meant nothing to the selection committee.

I will agree with you on that. You can care about whatever you want to. Also, he was constantly complaining for two days straight. On KVLY, in the Forum, on 740am. In a two day span, I would call that pretty constant. And don't forget, he was campaigning for a few days before the announcement. He spent a hell of a lot of time on the subject. That color-coded scroll probably took a half-day itself to compile and analyze.

I am glad you cleared up the KVLY piece, that makes more sense that he was talking about the championship game. So you completely ignore all his pathetic bitching and belly aching for DAYS about not getting in the NIT and focus on the smallest point in the whole thread. Cool. I liked the color coded scroll he pulled out for the media, showing teams that are rated below them in the RPI- that is the sign of a mature, classy coach.