petey23

You put your best foot forward or in this case front and center.

Well, that look good anyway.

Yeah. I didn't want to be the first to chime in, but unless it is just a bad angle, the middle of the floor looks like someone threw up.

I am going with what we have. I agree the interlocking UND logo would be preferable. The North Dakota at mid-court might be a little large, but that brings us back around to the fact we have a terrible logo which would look even worse blown up to that size.

I am not saying that REA shouldn't work with UND on what logos go where............but this might be a case of saving UND from themselves. If someone with photo shop skills wants to mock up a version with the Logo in the middle please go ahead. One possible addition would be having the "Fighting Hawks" and Logo on the sidelines and then renaming the end with the student section as either "The Cast" or preferably "The Kettle" but maybe instead of that, signage could be added behind the student section. This is a great look and if you told me we were refinishing the floor, this is what I imagine it should look like. This is a nice clean classic look. The name is prominent and truth be told if UND wants to sell merchandise and promote the brand it has to be more "Fighting Hawks", "Hawks", "UND", and "North Dakota" and due to our unfortunate decision making, far less logo. REA might be doing us a favor as far as optics go. Wouldn't be the first time a private enterprise knew better than a government entity.

Great. Now you go and point out yet another terrible decision that was made in this whole process.

Well he is technically an employee of Forum Communications which also owns the Herald.

rule #243--it is always easier to find another job while you have a job to leave.

I would be a combo plate. Unfortunate that we lost one of the most iconic names and logos in college sports due to forces beyond control and the unfortunate PC mindset. I can live with the name even though we could have done better. The logo? Nope, it is aweful. Other schools have touched up or tweaked their logos over the years without changing their name. We should move that timeframe up.

It would be a better look if they used a scripted Hawks or Fighting Hawks at center court or center ice instead of the logo. The new wordmark text is a cool look. Both would be infinitely better than the Hawk logo which should be used in small versions at most. i.e. left chest or back tag size on a shirt or sweatshirt but never in a full front decoration. On Uniforms it could be on the shoulder or sleeve but would look terrible adorning the front of a jersey, again the name Hawks itself would be preferable to that.

The text and new script are the only salvageable part of the new logo and should be highlighted.

https://goo.gl/images/mJDaFF

Can't remember what we paid, but if it was over 2-3 hours at $40/hour we got taken.

Petey is definitely not good at art, but does work with people who are.

Correct. 2 different sentences. My opinion happens to agree with the objective opinions of the vast majority regarding our unfortunate logo.

Yep. I am the only person who thinks are logo is garbage. You win.

I am financially invested and therefore that makes me emotionally invested as well. I stand by my opinion. The logo is trash by any objective standard. The name is a name. Not terrible, not good, just a name. Which was the point of my post...if they hadn't handled the process like a junior high summer marketing project we wouldn't have ended up with a terrible logo and we might have even stumbled our way upon an original name.....or had the common sense to remain just North Dakota until something came along organically.

Kept HRC out of jail.

Former UND athlete and good friends with Tellman. The Grinder was awesome...when I was living back in Bismarck there were a few post bar after hour trips with Evan to the Grinder. Then Jorgy had them at his bar for awhile.

Not to rehash the whole clusterf*ck that led to our current nickname and logo, but in short a batch of names should have been chosen(top 6 or 8) from the initial submission list and vote and then given to companies that specialize in marketing(local or national or even the UND marketing department) at which time they could put together rough logo ideas and marketing plans to go with the names. Then you decide on the entire concept instead of having 9% of those eligible choose a bland, mediocre name and then having one person choose a horsesh!t logo. I am in a business where we sometimes design corporate and team logos for apparel and promotional items. In all honesty, if one of our artists had sent our current logo to me I would have told them to try again and would not have even considered forwarding it on to my business customer or even to the mom of an 8th grade traveling basketball team who was in charge of ordering the uniforms.

In the mid 80's, Gasparini and Behrns had to ban their teams from going out to the bars. Witnessed the football team and hockey team have a pretty good battle royal at the old Bridge bar one night.

After Nashville's first goal on the power play last night, I was thinking yeah let's get some more of those 3 point goals! And then it ended. Stamkos and Karlsson are driving the bus now.

I agree. A. Fix this rift B. Renegotiate the agreement C. Extend the agreement