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Thank you. 18 year old freshman are typically incredibly special. I don't think Spicer is there yet.

Sorry, Cag was a week younger. I'm saying is one of the youngest. My point is that that age is typically reserved for players that are, with the exception of Hain, first round talent (yes, I understand Cag was undrafted). I'm saying I don't think Spicer is that player. We'll see.

Has played center, but moreso wing. McLaughlin is a center and could very well turn into our No. 1 center next year.

Had Spicer come in next year, he'd be the youngest forward since Toews to play for UND. Spicer isn't Toews. He's not ready.

I agree with this. But, it's a pattern that he hasn't unlearned whatsoever through his first year in college hockey. We could have taken the good with the bad, but he apparently wasn't worth the "risk". Would we have been so bummed about him had he just been another guy at UMass this year? Nope. We'll see what happens this year and moving forward without his guy that bailed him out all year on his pair.

The problem with this premise is that we didn't miss. We just wanted the kid, who would be the first 18 year old forward to come into UND since Jonny Toews, to play one more year in junior. Spicer made his decision. I think he's gonna be a solid college player, but he got passed up by other recruits that basically every other poster on here adore. UND felt he wasn't ready. We'll see if he is, unfortunately.

Hey man, I get it. He's an incredible talent. Offensive stud. He's not a responsible defensive player at all and if you watch him play, he's regularly feeding his teammates to the wolves with poor decisions. His former D-partner who's now coming to UND was the recipient of said decisions a lot last season. There's a reason a kid that talented, All-American as a rookie, didn't go first round. Partner that with some pretty rough stories about him off the ice (and some related to his tendency to not play sound defense on the ice), I don't think he was a right for for UND. Completely fine with you pegging it as a "typical response", and I'm just one man with an opinion based on what I've heard and seen. Feel free to love the kid. He's super talented. No skin off my back. We're all good "Rocket"

Another one that I really want. He'll start there this season, right? So. he will be there when Livanavage and Perron are there.

Been hearing about this kid since Nashville and everyone is drooling over him. Chyz and Smaby are both in Waterloo. Gotta get this done.

Wouldn't shock me, but Schlossy's article made it sound like he was looking college.

And if it's Bing, most of us will have ourselves a Merry Little Christmas

Man, he was REALLY sure he was coming in in the Fall. Bums me out that this wasn't straightened out.

Incredible, elite offensive talent. No need for me to argue against that. He's not a good defensive player, or at least he's not trying to be one, I guess. He's also apparently not the best teammate nor a wonderful person, based on what I've heard. We can let this one go, it's fine. Honestly not trying to be argumentative or "go against the grain" as you put, but I don't miss the kid on our team. It's that simple. LOL I cannot confirm, nor deny.

LOL watch the kid play defense. Start there. Then, we can talk the issues that actually got us to want to push him out.

I don't think it's crazy to assume he'd be comparable to those two, at all. He's just 17 and Bubs and Co. have determined he was behind them in the race to get to the ice. I hate losing him, but Spicer made his choice. I'm sure UND did their best to convince him, but he made his call.

Yeah, I never thought of it as a guarantee as I think that would be silly and poor form. They very likely tell him, and other recruits, a window when they'd like them to be ready. They disagreed. And here we are.

I'd be willing to bet that UND was never telling him he was 100% sure to come in. No need to argue this because none of us really know. With that said, that would be very bad form from UND to do that which is why I don't think it's what happened.

I am totally onboard with a kid buying into himself and trying to prove it, but I have a bad feeling he's going to get shown that he may not have been ready for college hockey at 18. He trusted Bubs all along, so why should that stop now? We'll see, I guess. I completely believe Spicer has the talent to be able to be a stud in college hockey. I'm wholly doubting it happens this season. And if he has a down year, what does that do to his confidence/psyche?

Definitely, man. Very excited about it.

So, adding Lindenwood, we're up to 61 teams. LOVE IT

Good stuff

Definitely. I still think this year was "their year" but I agree, they'll be right near the top of the Big 10 again.

Know his mom, what? Sarcasm because they mention it 65,000 times every time he's playing

Knies back to Minnesota. Dang it.

You're right. May as well stop recruiting there. My goodness the overreacting to this.