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But so would a decisive Game 3. Think of the first round of the NCHC when we have one on Sunday night at the Ralph. The crowd is always killer. Add the national tourney to that dynamic .... big time.

Oof! That was a deep cut lololol. Well done.

Holy eff balls!

Very common conversation to recruits is "we see you coming in around X season if everything goes to plan" ... So, he could have had that in his brain since he was 15 that he was coming in 22-23 and someone in his camp didn't feel like he should budge and that he was ready. Everything we've talked about for 4 or 5 days now was summed up in Brad's article. Spicer made his move and bought in to himself. I wish him the best.

Basically summed up all I was referring to yesterday.

Savoie signed. I'm SO sad

What makes you say that? He's made two very tough ones already this offseason. This is anything but simple.

Like @Walsh Hallsaid, regardless if Budy stays or goes has no bearing on why Calder is gone or why Spicer isn't coming in. Spicer is not coming in because he's not better than the four recruits ahead of him, otherwise he'd be here this season. He was told to wait a year and he decided not to.

Yes, that is the point, thank you lol. Calder was also very likely told he was getting little to no scholarship this season.

18 scholarships per team divvied out as the team sees fit. Some are definitely getting little to no money athletically (can still get academic scholarships, too). My guess is that Blake and McLaughlin are close to full, James a little less and Striden less than James. Strinden could also be getting large academic scholarships. My guess is that Budy is getting very little money if any at all.

One needs a scholly, the other does not.

Like I said and corrected, I meant to say/should have said he would have been the youngest since Toews (although I missed Cag). It was meant to be a comp between Spicer and Toews. Sorry for the confusion.

The point of my 18 year old comp was about him being the youngest player since Toews (I didn't realize Cag was younger) to come in to UND, making that talent rare. Schmaltz, Cag, Boeser are all good examples. No need to overthink this. Trying to develop the understanding that losing Spicer sucks, but it's not the end of the world.

Thank you. 18 year old freshman are typically incredibly special. I don't think Spicer is there yet.

Sorry, Cag was a week younger. I'm saying is one of the youngest. My point is that that age is typically reserved for players that are, with the exception of Hain, first round talent (yes, I understand Cag was undrafted). I'm saying I don't think Spicer is that player. We'll see.

Has played center, but moreso wing. McLaughlin is a center and could very well turn into our No. 1 center next year.

Had Spicer come in next year, he'd be the youngest forward since Toews to play for UND. Spicer isn't Toews. He's not ready.

I agree with this. But, it's a pattern that he hasn't unlearned whatsoever through his first year in college hockey. We could have taken the good with the bad, but he apparently wasn't worth the "risk". Would we have been so bummed about him had he just been another guy at UMass this year? Nope. We'll see what happens this year and moving forward without his guy that bailed him out all year on his pair.

The problem with this premise is that we didn't miss. We just wanted the kid, who would be the first 18 year old forward to come into UND since Jonny Toews, to play one more year in junior. Spicer made his decision. I think he's gonna be a solid college player, but he got passed up by other recruits that basically every other poster on here adore. UND felt he wasn't ready. We'll see if he is, unfortunately.

Hey man, I get it. He's an incredible talent. Offensive stud. He's not a responsible defensive player at all and if you watch him play, he's regularly feeding his teammates to the wolves with poor decisions. His former D-partner who's now coming to UND was the recipient of said decisions a lot last season. There's a reason a kid that talented, All-American as a rookie, didn't go first round. Partner that with some pretty rough stories about him off the ice (and some related to his tendency to not play sound defense on the ice), I don't think he was a right for for UND. Completely fine with you pegging it as a "typical response", and I'm just one man with an opinion based on what I've heard and seen. Feel free to love the kid. He's super talented. No skin off my back. We're all good "Rocket"

Another one that I really want. He'll start there this season, right? So. he will be there when Livanavage and Perron are there.

Been hearing about this kid since Nashville and everyone is drooling over him. Chyz and Smaby are both in Waterloo. Gotta get this done.

Wouldn't shock me, but Schlossy's article made it sound like he was looking college.

And if it's Bing, most of us will have ourselves a Merry Little Christmas