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Kind of (not) funny that two of the losses in the NCAA tournament have lead to direct changes in NCAA hockey rules: 2017: 2OT loss to Boston. With the new puck possession rule negating offsides, UND would have won that game in the first overtime. Instead a blurry picture was deemed good enough to call offsides. (Not) fun fact: UND had a 59-29 SOG advantage, a 145-67 shot advantage and Boston didn't even have a shot on goal the first overtime. 2021: 5OT loss to Duluth. Michigan decides to ignore Covid protocols and ends up giving Duluth a bye, while UND plays a game the previous night and then runs out of gas in the longest college hockey game by almost a full period. Regionals now have a set off day in-between to help negate any advantage.

There was a lot more to it than on the field performance... And they had boosters willing to put their money where their mouth was. To the tune of almost $18 million.

Anyone with a champions club membership got in free for at least quite a few years. They still only drew a few hundred or less for most games.

Says something about both the staff and QV that he was willing to stick it out here even though things probably didn't go how he hoped after decommitting from ODU. Glad that he's stuck it out. I've heard nothing but great things from him outside of football as well.

Man, that axe you're grinding has got to be getting pretty sharp. But at least you've moved on from some of the other insults.

I mean, those are your opinions right? Because they definitely can't be proven?Something others could call dumb or blatantly false? Or call an uneducated, lazy take? Or even an insanely bad take? Did I get all the adjectives in there? For the record, for 2022, Massey shows UND with a 69% win probability on a neutral court and 76% win probability in Grand Forks. The odds of a 20 point or greater Jamestown win comes out at 2.5%. For 2023, it shows as 72% and 79% with a 7-10 point margin of victory. Which tells me, maybe the first part of your comment is just a bit of hyperbole....

Apparently it doesn't count if they have 40+ games of D1 experience. It takes time to adjust to new roles!

You made it sound like it was a shock that he was a huge, solid piece of NDSU's puzzle because he wasn't "the man" this year. Regardless, not sure how you get boat-raced like that in a championship game with the pieces they did have. Either the comments about how quick they "rebuilt" were pre-mature or ORU is 5 steps above everyone else in the conference.

It is a bit strange. Almost like some people have some sort of emotional attachment to how good they are, perceived or otherwise, and feel the need to make sure others have a high opinion of them. Odd that some are almost taking it personally. Not really my thing either but to see the defense of them is a bit over the top given where it is being discussed. Personally going after a poster who has proven to have great insight, for an opinion that I think others (not on a UND message board) share, is also kind of interesting. Or maybe I'm just reading into things (and teams/conferences) that don't matter too much here.

The coaches didn't think it would be an issue, they had him as preseason all-conference first team. But what do they know?

Closer, but still wasn't it. About 70% gone. Don't disagree that they lost a lot of production, but they had 3 solid building blocks (plus an injured one) that came back. I'd love it if we could just get to that point. They were a mess at the beginning of the season, the coach let the young guys learn on the fly and they are coming together for a nice run at the end of the season. How their OOC was so bad with a couple of the players they had coming back but when you're a low major, I guess the end of the year needs to be the focus.

While they lost a good chunk, it was not 80% or actually even near it. 65% would be more accurate. Returning three key contributors who had almost 130 games of experience, including one who was on the pre-season all-Summit team isn't exactly a rebuild. That doesn't even take into account a 4th guy who's played 50 games, sitting out with an injury this year and helping mentor the young guards. Regardless, having two guys on the roster in their 3rd season who are top 12ish players in the league is a pretty strong position to build from even when you lose a few guys. Also of note, they are 14-16 against D1 competition despite what they were building off of. Should have lost to USD until the Coyotes literally through the game away. Full credit for getting hot twice in one game against SDSU and running them off the court though.

Not saying you are right or wrong but you're ignoring the significant draft capital that King was also taking into account. By his count, it was five 1st or 2nd team All Pros that were taken with picks given up to acquire him. It was about more than just money.

So one is at the 38th percentile and one is at the 45th percentile? Weird way to phrase it, but that would put both below average, assuming that average is the 50% mark? Sounds like they are pretty close to me.

I kind of thought the same thing but I hadn't realize UND was picked 4th in the preseason poll. Jory Nelson also probably had a case as they were picked right behind UND. But it is tough to argue with 18-0 even if that's where you were picked with 90% of the 1st place votes.

Despite that, still a pretty solid chance the Freshman of the Year transfer out after the season. Again. Rohde has been rumored to have a few B1G teams after him.

Only pointing out the two glaring holes in this team could have both been filled by players that were on the roster 24 months ago. Both of who had proved they could make a difference in the league. Wishful thinking more than anything.

Would have been nice this season to have a Rebraca and an Ihenacho to fill those gaps. Two completely different scenarios, but this team is a whole lot different with those two on the roster.

If what I heard last week is accurate, I was a bit surprised but definitely intrigued. More interested in finding out who's going to be the new RB coach (or however they end up shuffling things around).

Well, fill us all in. All we know is that it was publicly announced Holinka was stepping down down February 11 and JS was named DC on February 27. What are the specifics on what happened before anything was made public and the 2+ weeks in between?

Pretty sure that group only expects to go undefeated and win a national championship every year.

How do you know who else was either officially or unofficially in conversations about the job? It isn't like the change was announced the next day and there wasn't time for other conversations. Not unexpected but a lot of assumptions on your part. Yes it does. And the person who made the hire is putting his fate in the new hire's hands. They have a lot more on the line than you do. Maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't. Same thing would be true of pretty much any hire. I think (hope) we're all on the same page and see the return of an attacking defense that can get to the QB and not leave our secondary out to dry.

Just curious how much "resources" do you think they should annually kick in above and beyond what they already do? Or are you willing to have them lower contributions in other places to offset a new need?

You're making my point. Schools can do it for a short period of time. But no one is consistently doing it almost every year like it is expected here. There are going to be lulls over time. And even when schools are at "high" it is still a coinflip in single-elimination games. In those same 20 years: Denver: Missed the tournament in consecutive years twice: 2006/2007 and 2021 Boston College: Missed the tournament in 2009 and then 2017, 2018 and 2019 Duluth: Missed 2005-2008, 2010, 2013-2014 North Dakota: Missed 2018 and 2019 So over the last 20 years, UND has been in the tournament as much or more than all 3 of your examples, even if they miss it this year. Just for fun: UMass has made a whopping 4 tourney appearances in the last 20 years. They have managed to have a nice little couple year run and now have a worse record than UND this year. Quinnipiac has 7 appearances in the last 20 years. Again, they are on a nice run currently of making the tournament. They haven't made a Frozen Four since they lost to UND in 2016.

Yeah, but it is so much easier to cherry pick data and say "They did it, why can't we??" while ignoring those previous decades of nothingness. You're spot on. No one is regularly winning titles every few years. Yes, teams can do it over a short duration/small sample size, but it is not normal.