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I used the literal highest attendance each team had in the first part. Almost all were well above average being a rivarly or sponsored game (or hosting a historic ORU team). So those numbers were already inflated. In the second part, the numbers were inflated by ORU hosting a pair of games and them having a historic season where their home crowds were huge. Go back a year, when they were still pretty good, and the numbers were 2-3,000 less. Having it at an neutral site guarantees ticket sales and revenue for the conference. Go to home site guarantees nothing, including additional fans showing up because, here is where you missed my point: "factoring in POST SEASON loser go home games on the weekend".....well, I pointed out that in the case that actually happened on UND campus, there was not a significant bump. In fact it was lower than at least one of the regular season games (don't care to check the rest because the point stands, no noticeable bump).

What is the point of this outside of excluding a team while managing to lengthen the Nchc tournament by an extra weekend and a bunch of extra games? Not opposed to change, but why try to burn out whoever wins?

Also for reference, when UND hosted the WBB Big Sky championship, they drew 1404 in the semis and 1937 in the finals. Hardly a full house. Attendance for the NDSU game that year was 2261.

Since you asked....here's some actual numbers. Highest attendance for each school this season: NDSU - 3867 (vs UND) UND - 2458 (vs NDSU) Omaha - 4316 (sponsored game, 1100 higher than second highest) Denver - 1335 UMKC - 1532 WIU - 1681 UST - 2013 SDSU - 4421 USD - 4605 (vs SDSU) ORU - 8012 Here's what your hypothetical matchups drew during the regular season: NDSU v Omaha attendance 6k Regular season - 1805 St Thomas v UND attendance 2k (new 5k arena coming in St Paul soon) Regular season - 985 Western Illinois v Denver attendance 5k Regular season - 508 South Dakota v KC attendance 6k Regular season - 2080 Your estimate: 19K Regular season comps: 5378 Then.... Western Illinois v Omaha attendance 5k Regular season - 353 South Dakota v North Dakota attendance 6k Regular season - 2416 Your estimate: 11K Regular season comps: 2769 Then... Oral Roberts v Omaha attendance 11k Regular season - 7846(only holds ~8800) South Dakota State v North Dakota attendance 5k? Regular season - 1744 Your estimate: 16K Regular season comps: 9590 Then... Oral Roberts v North Dakota attendance 11k Regular season - 7492 Your estimates: 57,000 Comparable regular season matchups: 25,229 Even if you take the best attendance from each venue (most of which were rivalry games or hosting ORU), you're still well short of 40,000 attendance. And you estimate 11,000 for ORU when their arena holds over 2,000 less than that. Based on realistic fan support, especially when visiting teams are going to be traveling on short notice, I'm seeing a hard time being above 30-35,000 in a best case scenario. And it is only getting that high because ORU was pushing 8,000 a game in a historic season and nowhere else is going to get anywhere near that.

LOL at those estimates.

Solid hire. Guessing he really wanted to get back into coaching 14 years of experience as a head coach plus another 13 years coaching linebackers. Will be a good resource for Schwenzfeier to lean on.

UND's numbers are historically under 50% allocated funds. Considering the restrictions for hockey and football, thus lack of ticket revenue, not shocking that the 2020-21 school year relied much heavier on allocated funds.

Bet the national title was worth it though.

Maag showing out pretty well today.

Nice investment into the program for a 7th home game in 2024. That makes for 19 home games over the next 3 years.

Likely that Berry was a little fired up after winning an elimination game, his team played much harder than the night before and probably a little perturbed at some of Jake's on-the-nose comments about effort on Friday night (which were completely in-line) and it came off a little more aggressive than intended. Nothing wrong with a coach showing a little emotion. I would also guess that there is absolutely zero hard feelings between Berry and Jake, it was a heat of the moment comment.

Pretty thin skinned for a guy who's been through the nastiness of college athletics. But I digress. Retain and build.

Why can't you answer any of the questions I asked? I mean you put your opinions out there, with conviction, why is it weird that someone wants to ask you the expand on it?

I mean sure, whatever. Thanks for gracing us with your expertise. What level did you play at again so we know how much to take your opinion into account since that's apparently the measuring stick? Stepping aside and saying maybe some of it is accurate, if college athletics are such a harsh reality and so nasty, why does someone who hasn't been on campus for multiple years and has moved on (twice) need to try to air dirty laundry? Why are you making such a big deal out of the comments that were made? Why do the opinions of those who were asked to move on matter so much? Seems more personal than anything because, as you've said, it is supposedly the norm in college athletics. Still don't buy a good chunk of the accusations, but whatever. Coach got the extension he deserved. Retain and build from there.

If an account is private, you wouldn't see it. BJ liked it on Instagram, so there's that I guess. What does it mean? Nothing in the end, similar to the negative drama that's spilling everywhere.

Maybe the only surprise here is that it's a 2 year extension, giving her 3 years left:

Yeah, disagree but whatever. Some pretty serious accusations being tossed around. Chaves follows one of the guys throwing stuff around on Twitter so I guess he'll finally get his voice heard since it supposedly didn't matter when he was here.

A couple of those are now on their 3rd stop. It is what it is, but not hard to see why they would be upset. Some of the others complaining look like they were probably told they weren't going to play at this level or they didn't fit into the new staff's plans. Looking at their stats where they currently are, that former was probably accurate and the latter happens frequently when there is a coaching change. Other than Rebraca, has any player that left been measurably more successful than they were at UND? Hopefully these players shared their concern with the athletic director on their way out. Because that opinion is the only one that actually matters.

Can't imagine why either of them would have a negative opinion. On the flip side, you also have current and past players "liking" the extension.

As expected by most: Right decision. Timing was important with the portal opening up. Now retain and build off of how the year ended!

Can't even copy and paste from the Herald's article or what?

The quote was that he directed his daughter to do so, secretly. What he knew and when he knew is a different (and fair) argument. The comment about it being taken care of relatively quickly once BB's name was brought in to it seems to lend credence to the theory he wasn't involved and once he was, it was sorted out in very short matter.

Pretty pointed accusation. Have the facts to back that up?

Not to mention short term travel logistics and making sure arenas are available. The tournament is currently very profitable, it would be nice to stay that way. I won't argue the atmosphere in the Betty was awesome when the women won there, but the greater good says this is a very good setup.

Kind of (not) funny that two of the losses in the NCAA tournament have lead to direct changes in NCAA hockey rules: 2017: 2OT loss to Boston. With the new puck possession rule negating offsides, UND would have won that game in the first overtime. Instead a blurry picture was deemed good enough to call offsides. (Not) fun fact: UND had a 59-29 SOG advantage, a 145-67 shot advantage and Boston didn't even have a shot on goal the first overtime. 2021: 5OT loss to Duluth. Michigan decides to ignore Covid protocols and ends up giving Duluth a bye, while UND plays a game the previous night and then runs out of gas in the longest college hockey game by almost a full period. Regionals now have a set off day in-between to help negate any advantage.