jdub27

UND owns the land the REA is on along with everything in front of it from Gateway to 6th Ave except for where the fire station is. I believe they also still own the land where all the condos behind the REA are plus the Wellness Center.

The issue is that as a UDFA, sometimes you have to sign while you can, especially if its a good offer. No guarantees those same offers will be there next year for a variety of reasons (performance, injury, etc). Chances are you end up in the minors somewhere, but you have a contract and a chance. Those aren't guaranteed if you come back to school.

Or a couple decades. Hopefully this will keep people busy while those looking out for the best interests of the University and athletic department as a whole move on and put a new nickname in place. Still can't figure out why people don't understand that's the point we are at, regardless of how it came to be. The Fighting Sioux nickname and logo isn't coming back and the University won't be able to fully move on until a new nickname is in place.

Just want to point out that Izzo and Michigan St. currently have the #2 ranked recruiting class for 2015, his third top 10 class in the last 6 years. Won't argue with his ability to develop players and seemingly getting more out of those that weren't highly ranked, but he has definitely had talent as well.

Not sure how I missed that one, but you are correct. Roche and Johnson played two years but both of those were under Blais.

Oh this is going to be good.... Wish you would have had this turned on Thursday night!!

So what are you trying to say then? Because there are some kids who come through the program who don't stay four full years, they aren't contributing? Or they aren't concerned with winning? Or UND would be better off without them? Who was the last player to only play for one year at UND? Toews, Parise, Zajac and Nelson (thanks 90siouxfan) are the only three four off the top of my head that only played two and then left for the NHL but maybe I'm missing one or two. Not sure how UND would have been better off without them. Murray and Spirko went overseas after two seasons. The majority of the schools who are regularly in the hunt, including those who have won the national title, have kids that leave early. I guess Boston would have won the national title if they wouldn't have recruited Eichel because he's only concerned about being drafted in the top two and going pro next season? In basketball and football it happens all the time with the top teams so I have a hard time buying it as a reason for the results. Still waiting for fs4l to explain his agreement on this.

Would love to hear which players you think didn't put it all on the line while wearing a UND sweater. Should be easy since you both feel there are lots of them.

Heard that due to being on campus, tailgating won't be a big event. Hoping they still put something together to help encourage people to come out.

There was more to Rocky moving on then his on the field results but how ever you need to mold the story to help your cause.

They also had down seasons that were completely different from anything Hakstol has ever had.

And before the went on their recent run, they were on a 21 year title drought.

The Betty has this for basketball teams. Execution is slightly lacking since they didn't redo the banners to be uniform, they just used the original ones so it looks a little sloppy. I am in favor of the idea though, especially since the new ones at the REA will vary from the ones currently hanging.

I'm confused how a new nickname would take away pride, tradition and history? I guess I associate all those with the University of North Dakota, not whatever nickname or logo they happened to be going by or wearing at the time. Did UND have to start from scratch each time they changed their nickname or logo in the past?

Is it because outside of Jerry York, no other coach has been able to get their team to the Frozen Four at even close to the same pace? Criticize Hak's Frozen Four record but ignore the frequency that he has got UND to that point? Seems odd.

You are the one claiming that some fans are somehow "settling" because they are enjoying the success that they have had even though it doesn't including winning a national championship.

Who's settling? One can be disappointed that the team hasn't won a national championship while enjoying what they have accomplished. It isn't one or the other despite what you seem to keep insisting.

They have started pouring concrete for the floor. After that is completed, the turf will go in, followed by the track. I believe they are hoping to have the concrete portion completed in the next few weeks.

Lots of comments on other people's excuses but nothing on gfhockey not being able to convert in a big game GDT.

To me it seems that the underlying assumption has more than proven true. Attendance at any hockey game that UND has played in this year is pretty clear evidence. And don't be dazzled by the words on the page? They seem to spell out pretty clearly the steps pretty clearly, seems that you are reading much deeper into something that isn't there. If the NCAA decides tells UND they are in violation of the settlement agreement of either getting tribal approval or moving to a new nickname, therefore they are now subject to agreed upon sanctions, UND doesn't have a leg to stand on. The NCAA doesn't have to sue to place agreed upon sanctions on UND. The NCAA doesn't need to sue, doesn't need to prove damages, the agreement already spells it all out.

Placating the vocal minority? I guess technically it is an option but there are consequences that come with it. My understanding from people I've talked to is that even if it is a true option, its not a good one. I don't expect to see it on any final list.

In the settlement agreement, UND and the NCAA agreed that UND would be subject to sanctions if they did not receive tribal approval or move to a new nickname if they were unable to. Not sure why you keep adding an extra step about the NCAA suing and monetary damages. UND isn't in compliance and if they aren't in compliance, they agreed they could be subject to the sanctions. Almost identical if UND would not have dropped the nickname, they wouldn't be in compliance and the sanctions could be applied.

You're arguing with a guy who comes from and supports a school where student-athletes think that copying names out of a phone book and placing them on petitions that allow ballot measures to be voted on by the general public is OK. Controls and accountability are of no concern as shown by the lack of discipline issued to the players. They had clearly been through enough.

UND is in violation of an agreement that had defined consequences. The agreement stated that if UND was not in compliance (and replacing the nickname with a new nickname if no tribal approval was received was part of the compliance), they could be placed back on the sanctions list. Why would the NCAA need to sue to enforce the back-end of an agreement that already spells out everything? They aren't fighting over anything new.

I would guess that the comments about possibly petitioning for an extra year would have to do with the year he sat out to play at UAB and then them shutting down their program. Don't see it being a real solid case but weirder things have happened. Not sure he is pursuing it at this point.