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Everytime a bisonswill fan posts on Siouxsports it screams of their inferiority complex. Please go post on your new rivals site I'm sure the Jackrabbits would love to hear from you. UND has moved in a different direction - what part of that don't you understand - we are in a different conference, we have different values, we have a top tier Division I sport that you can't relate to. Please mooooove on!

Don't feed the trolls - Use the "Ignore" option on all known su posters - it's pretty easy to pick them out.

First of all I think there's a place called Bisonswille for you su fans to post - there are at least a half dozen threads about UND on that site you can go post on - they've even got a special smak thread for the really poisonous and idiotic. I really can't figure out why you spend time on a site for a school that you are no longer a rival of - your inferiority complex screams everytime you post here - grow up and move on. Second - do we really want to be one of "those schools" where the fans think they can run the decision making? Let's let everyone do their job, the administration, the coaches, the players and let's just be fans through thick and think. It's just ridiculous to start rants about firing coaches. Second guessing, arm chair quarterbacking is what fans do and that is fine, but good god what value do threads with "Fire _____ " bring to the discussion? It doesn't make the school look good, it doesn't help the players morale and it certainly has little impact on the decision making - no matter what you think. Yes it was a very tough loss, we are still in transition - guess what - whether we go 11-0 or 3-8 the result at the end of the season will still be the same - one year closer to full DI status and one year more experienced. Going 10-0 or 9-1 would be fun but it has no impact on your future progress you can still go 3-8 when it really counts - that's been proven. It's also been proven that when fans and fans board posting start ranting for coaches to be fired it does nothing for the good of the school. We all have high expectations for all UND teams based on history I'm guessing the administration, coaches and players do too. Let them take care of it. It's a game, it's for fun, they are student athletes, the coaches are dedicated and hard working. Be a fan - but not "that kind of fan".

Thanks for your interest in Sioux sports.

Does anyone else get a stomach ache having to read paragraph after paragraph about ndsu on a Fighting Sioux fan board. Please, we really aren't interested in details, history, chest puffing about your team, we have moved on. We are also tired of the many predictions of doom su zealots love to share - NCAA death penalty, getting kicked out of the Big Sky, etc. This is a UND FIghting Sioux Fan Board and this thread was not intended to give a platform for trying to convince us how much better/smarter/larger/younameit ndsu is than UND.

Attended in the late 70s, seldom missed a hockey, basketball or football game. Stood in line for Wisconin hockey at -30, sang along to "Old Mcdonald had a farm" at SU games, watched badgers, gophers even a live chicken get thrown on the ice, saw a rubber chicken on a pole hung over the Denver goalies head, those were the days.

Good gravy we are still in transition, don't you have your own site to post your swill on? Team that won the most games in the last decade they played: UND Team that won the last game played between the two teams: UND Team with the overall winning record in the now defunct rivalty: UND Team that left the conference, thus ending the rivaltry: NDSU Team that had more scholarships and wanted to continue the rivalry: NDSU Team that could have missed the playoffs if it would have continued the rivalry: UND Team that has hosted the most playoff games in the past 20 years: UND Please MOOOOOVE on.

This calls for a state-wide vote on the issue. (not entirely serious). What does it take to have a state-wide initiative?

4 hour drive 1 great seat at the 50 yard line Priceless I'm ready to tailgate!

Does this make anyone else's stomach turn - I hope The Ralph takes a stand on this B as in B, S as in S.

This week's Sports Illustrates rates as #1 pre-game ceremony the Florida State Seminole pre-game ceremony of a student dressed as a native american riding a horse to the center of the football field and throwing a flaming spear into the ground. Any thoughts?

The problem is the anti-nickname group has never been primarily native americans it's been the liberal leftys and they will never go away -they have learned the minority can outlast the majority. I can't imagine how ugly it would get at the mere suggestion of using Spirit lake Sioux. Even with the support of the Spirit Lake Sioux you would have the same group getting the media attention and I think we've seen that tribal governments can change their minds so a few years down the road with a different council we could be looking at the same issue all over again. My belief might be obvious by my postings and moniker but I see no reason why the spirt and history of the Fighting Sioux can't live on - at least for historical purposes. I do believe that once a new nickname is chosen the upcoming generations of students will move away from the Fighting Sioux but who knows perhaps there always will be a group of students on campus that pick up the baton and preserve the spirit.

It will at least be hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue because once the name is established everyone will need to buy new stuff. Goon posted the NCAA statement about a replacement name in his blog and it appears a little vague. I would guess they are negotiating with the NCAA (oxymoron I know), to have some time for "healing" otherwise any name that comes too soon will be trashed. The reality is a name is needed for revenue purposes you can't copywrite or register "North Dakota".

I was in Devils Lakes for the Fort Totten Days activities and my Sioux Pride shirts were very well received. Many who stopped at the booth said they voted for the nickname others said that the use of the name did not bother them - which to me is like a yes vote. I have also sold Sioux Pride shirts to native americans from more than a dozen states.

While I was in the camp of no nickname, just use North Dakota, there are problems with that. For one thing you can't register the name so you would have no control or exclusivity to it - except of course a new cool logo. Also it appears that NCAA will not allow the no nickname because they must have realized that no new nickname = Fighting Sioux by default. Just like the Brooklyn Dodgers and the Minneapolis Lakers there is no reason why the Fighting Sioux name can't continue to be worn and preserved, but of course NCAA took care of scrubbing the logo from sight for good because they also said UND could not sell the rights to the logo to any other entity ... I am hoping The RALPH can get some kind of historic preservation deal going perhaps through the state so the logo can remain a permanent part of the community. I did read that some on the UND Logo committee feel just the opposite they want the logo gone forever, so we can "move on".

Counting the days, taking off early from work on Thursday - will there be tailgating as usual - what time does it start?

I'm taking the Sioux Pride Van to Devils Lake for Fort Totten Days and got permission from the Cenex Store on Highway 2 to set up the van and sell Sioux Pride shirts. If you're in the area stop in, I'm guessing I won't have to deal with picket signs or anyone telling me my shirts are hostile and abusive, in fact last time I attended a Pow Wow and had a booth I did quite well. My link

There is a "can't" it has been reported that the NCAA has said as part of the agreement that UND must replace the nickname and that they can't sell the logo or the nickname to another entity. Thus the Ralph can't buy it and UND can't just go with North Dakota. I'd be happy if this was an urban legend but it makes sense.

The SCSU administration has a long history of not listening or even communicating with its fans - the elimination of homecoming is one example. The new administration has totally dropped the Sioux nickname issue it was obviously an issue that the former president Saigo brought to the school and when he left it left - oh but one thing he did leave behind was massive debt and disorganization. It appears his time could have been better spend running SCSU rather than bashing the Sioux nickname - you can't make it up that while he was running around the country speaking on panels that were protesting native american nicknames they were finding swatstikas on his campus.

SCSU a school that elects a guy as homecoming queen, then eliminates homecoming all together, has discussed dropping football, is laying off professors and cutting their budget to the bone, in the discussion of wanting to be in conferences with universities of similar stature, not sure they deserve an invitation.

The politically correct have won the battle, the sick feeling in my stomach is knowing that scrubbing the name from the school is just the beginning of politically correct madness taking over. I will continue to support the school, support the teams, buy my tickets, make my donation. But I will never wear any colors or any name that is not Fighting Sioux or Fighting Sioux colors.

I'm on board with the belief that the game is part of the total experience and support. I just sent in my season ticket payment. My drive is 4 hours one way, sometimes I sleep in the back of my van if the game is a night game but the Budget Inn Express near the Ralph is about $50 a night - nothing I would have my wife sleep in but for just me it's fine. They are friendly folks there but the walls are a little thin.

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Sigh ... revising history must be so rewarding 1. NDSU chose to leave the NCC 2. NDSU chose to leave DII 3. NDSU had lost 10 of the last 11 football games to UND 4. NDSU was all about maintaining the football game once they had dozens more scholarships than UND and were recruiting at the DI transition level 5. UND was still eligible for making DII playoffs and hosting playoff games - playing outside DII had been proven to hurt a team's DII playoff and hosting opportunities.

Are we speaking Chinese here? You are irrelevent to us, we have moooved on. You have your own Bisonswille board to post on including a smack thread that reflects your integrity and your fixation. Your disfunctional insecure immature fans already ruin every attempt at an intelligent discussion on the newspaper comment boards. Please go to the boards of your new-found rivals and make enemies there. We are in a different conference, one that now is not good enough for you, we never win a recruiting competition with you, the newspapers hate your team, they love our team, your players never do anything wrong, you do everything right, we do everything wrong, you had the best president in the country until we drove him off, we are a one sport school, you are smarter than us, have I fed your dillusional minds enough or is there more to be said to feed your inferiority complex?