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Logic would tell you that is because a lot of those fans went over to bisonsports.net and a lot of the UND talk can be found there. Because as you put it, it essentially started because of the need for a place where people can openly talk about UND without administrator interference. I actually have never visited the site yet. Is bisonsports.net becoming more popular than Bisonville?

Umm, If there is a thread called essentially "NDSU/UND football game: talk smack here": (this thread maybe?) Why would you have a problem with it? It would have the sole purpose of people to talk smack who enjoy it; a place where other people can go and talk about something you don't enjoy. Knowing this why would you have a problem with it? Why would you "waste your time" and become frustrated reading it when you know what it is already about. My general theory (not directed at you) is that a lot of people enjoy talking smack (directly or indirectly with or without knowing it). That is why you see those topics so popular. Lets face it; sometimes it can get "boring" around here with not much to talk about and/or the same old stuff. This is why you might see one thread in this forum have numerous postings per day. It would continuously be at the top of the forum. "Others" would find themselves reading it because they would be curious to what is so "popular" and what people are talking about, even though they know it would be smack. They would then thus eventually find themselves posting there too.....realizing they are doing what they don't want to do "talking smack"....Its like a drug.....just say no. In a way it is like a free market economy. If there is no demand for a smack thread it would fall off the front page because no one is talking about it and no one would have to worry about it or reply "lame topic". Otherwise there would be a "market" for it and it would be popular. *This is not advocating "smack" in anyway. I rarely do it; just like drugs.

I agree. Women's hockey right now is in its infancy stages, just like Womens Basketball in the day. Now look. Who would have thought it might have outdrawn the men back in the day? Now we have Womens Pro Basketball. I only see Womens Hockey as a potential to grow. More HS programs are adding womens hockey teams, so that is good.

Word up to that. Dean Blais had mentioned on numerous occassions that if this crazy concept of Big Ten Hockey Concept ever came to fruition. This Arena would help UND tremendously in getting into that conference. Heck, helped UND so much even if they didn't get invited to the BTHC it doesn't appear UND needs to worry too much. If they could create a pretty strong conference with Duluth, Mankato, St. Cloud, Tech, etc. UND would be the team to beat (like UM and Wisconsin now). It would be their job (UND) to try and help the entire conference become stronger. UND entering Division I in all sports will be huge if there is a chance UND wants to get invited to the BTHC. The Big Ten Hockey Conference is not a myth, especially with the formation of the Big Ten Sports Network. They will have a lot of money thanks to the rights to broadcast games and a lot of money to throw at schools to get them to form a conference with the huge return to nationally televise those hockey games on their network thus making even more money. As The Sicatoka says "follow the money." This is not a myth or far off concept but reality closing in every day. You don't think Wisconsin and Minnesota would love to play other "big name" schools all year long (UND included)? They would love to play Michigan and Michigan State every year in conference play. Ten years of talk only means one thing. It is not going away. The more talk there is the more people get to thinking about it and how to make it a reality. Dean Blais did talked about it for a reason and not because he thought it would never happen.

That is quite the odd promotion.

It appears the best we can hope for is to replace Bemidji St with the loss of Wisconsin and Minnesota with the hopes that UND will be able to become a member of the Big Ten Conference since it will obviously need members anyways. Otherwise a conference UND is in without "Big Names" (MN & WI) would be very bad for UND.

To kiss butt a little: I think the moderators have done a perfect job on this board. They make the ultimate decisions but also take into accounts what the users want. They are willing to try new things to see if they work while always updating this site to make it better. Jim and others continue to let people know their positions so the "informal rules" (noise to content ratio) seem to be clear to most, or at least those who are regular users (the ones who are the most important to keeping happy). Kudos.

I don't think it would be that hard for the WCHA (or any other team) to make/pay for a trophy and start its own history instead of having to always worry about having Michigan Tech being in the league for use of their cup. Now that I think about it. Who needs the history of the McNaughton Cup. Shouldn't the league care more about the history of the WCHA and its championships than the simple name and looks of the cup that the winner is awarded?

If that was the case the arena wouldn't be on the verge of setting a record this season (perhaps you missed that part or didn't read the article) for the number of sellouts. Since the arena is nothing new and the team isn't dominating every team. Rather it is the hard work of the REA staff using their collective heads to finally find solutions to common problems like the article states:

I too hope Bemidji St isn't added. They would water down the league. All this would mean less games against more traditional rivals and give reason for the proponents of a Big Ten Hockey League. The WCHA just can't go around adding schools. 10 is a good number.

Gotta love it when the fans themselves become "news" To Heath Hotzler: Can you show me where someone said this on this message board. I don't remember reading it. And don't feel like searching through the posts. Thanks.

Don't feed the trolls.

It wouldn't be from one rich alumni, but probably 10 donors of $30 million.

Can you imagine if Ralph wanted to have fun with people: To UND: "Have an architectural firm draw up the nicest stadium in the country. Leather seats. Luxury suites, milliondollar scoreboard. Tell them this is what you plan for a hockey arena in the future. If I like it, I might donate a lot of money to UND. " UND: "How many seats" Ralph: "11-12,000" UND: "That seems like a lot. Double the current 6,000 seat one and sometimes we can't even fill that that." Ralph: "Dont' worry. Build it and they will come. Better to have to many seats than not enough!" Every fan in the country to UND: "Pipe Dream" Ralph reaction:

I gotta agree. It would be disasterous to move football outdoors again in Grand Forks regardless of what "traditionalists" think. There is no doubt that being outdoors would cost UND attendance numbers meaning less revenue for UND. The new stadium needs to be in the 23,000-28,000 seat range. Lonnie Laffen of JLG Architects wrote this on the blog I like it. Integrating the tradition with the future.

Just so you know. The Sioux Football show is broadcast on the web too. You really seem to be bent out of shape about nothing. The only fact here is the Bohl show dropped in ratings because it switched times to Sunday mornings when less people watch it (the average fan has probably yet to realize when and where it moved to). That is all. Undo you undies.

On a SDSU message board. All right I'll stop now. They do a good job of supporting there football team similar to UND and its hockey.

Wrong again. No surprise though . I think it was to guage the football TV ratings.

I was thinking the same.

Apparently I should add the McFeely blog to my favorite links that discuss UND sports. I had no idea there was so much good talk going on there about UND.

Anytime things like this occur Minnesota Politicians have a fit if they try to move it outside the state of MN.

You are definately right. He is using SIU as a stepping stone. Otherwise he would have stayed at UND as mentioned by his "bleed green" during his press conference. This move will help him NOT lose four years in his career goals.

I know of quite a few actually. Well I know of serveral people that would love to be the Next AD of UND. Dean Blais included. I think the AD job will be a tough one because the former one got fired/quit , coupled with the fact that coaches are getting fired or quitting. Not because of people talking on a message board. If so, God help us. Ah yes the "hide the truth" doctorine. "Jimmy is doing an excellent job. He is a very hard worker." Jane says to the "public." Then Jane tells Jimmy, "You aren't doing such a great job. You need to improve or you are fired." It is not a very good philosophy to live by. If there are problems that are not being addressed what better way to help create change than by UND fans (the people who care the most about the school) talking about it trying to find solutions. We all know certain people in the administration read these forums. And here's a shocker....they get ideas that they like and use them to better the university . I am not blaming anyone for anything. I speak in generals, not about Lennon or Buning or any other adminstratiors at UND, but if there are potential conflict of interests in the adminstration they should be addressed and possibly changed for the future. And as JimDahl pointed out

Those so called "conflict of interest" nobody likes. I knew his point from the beginning.

The reason UND/NDSU/SDSU/USD need to anchor a conference or at least be working to be in the same conference and so they have enough votes to control it.