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Again the "$700k" number comes up. Can we see how the SUs are doing (their budgets)? Can we see what the SUs asked for and got in up-front money for the move? C'mon. These are easy things. Show, so UND can find the key take-aways.

Really? Dang. And here I thought UND was up seven DI titles to zero. Must be the math.

That's the first, of the things you list, that I'd expect to see. Why (in any scenario with UNO as a DII) does UNO want to keep flying to Washington for football when the MIAA is a very strong conference and they are right next door.

Somebody has to check the math.

Neither did NDSU in their last DII year.

What conference are you in today? Can we look at your budget to see how you do it fiscally?

How do you measure the true cost of a "stay"? There have to be impacts beyond fiscal in a long-term view. I'd say we could look at the budgets of the SUs for a move estimate, but asking to see those budgets just gets me in trouble. At least the report was honest enough to admit that it wasn't best qualified to make either estimate and that more work needed to be done.

Why would he even soil his hands by striking them? I figured he'd smote them with a mere passing thought.

Careful. There are juries still out in Fargo and Brookings. Milton College.

I know you weren't putting down the idea. In that thread is the scenario where going to lacrosse makes sense: being DI in a non-baseball conference. All the things you mention are right there. The rest of the problem is that I don't see GF looking to build a baseball facility. And I really don't expect the Northern League to be looking at Grand Forks any time soon either. My thoughts are save that "powder" and use it another day to try to get higher returns out of an existing facility (i.e. The Al as host to both UND Football, and maybe, someday, UND Lacrosse).

First you call him a "Gopher"; then you say "something's not right in his head." Why are you repeating yourself?

More information about this system: Cost you ask? From the attachment's to UND's DI report:

Even if you didn't commit the offense there. Amazing. Man, that's a racket even Tony Soprano would be impressed with.

What I find quite humorous is fans and alumni of schools who did hire outside consultants saying UND should have hired outside consultants when those schools that did hire outside consultants didn't follow the recommendations they paid for! More humorous is that same group of fans pointing out UND's present budgetary status and saying UND can't go in that condition when their very schools did the very same just a few years ago.

Everyone one who has read the Final Report to Kupchella, all of it, including the fiscal sub-committee data and the attachments, raise their hand. Well, I see mine up. I read it and saw a set of simple facts and data. It doesn't all say "go" nor does it all say "stay". I saw issues I hadn't seen before. It was about as unbiased a report as any I'd seen. There was no "tone" to it, positive or negative. For example, I see this random tossing about of "additional $1,000,000.00" being scoffed by some folks as a huge understimate. Guess what: Scoffing is correct! UND's report says so: I read honest assessments of present dollars, possible revenues, areas of strength, areas of weakness. What I read in the report primarily, however, is what I've said all along: Answer either "cost" or "conference" and you have your answer. I expect we'll be receiving our answer shortly.

You learn something new every day: I didn't realize Leighton Broadcasting owned both KCNN-AM and KNOX-AM in Grand Forks. And I didn't realize all of the print media outlets Forum Communications has, nor did I realize that they have more television than radio outlets.

Dude, as I said, read the lax thread. It talks about the scenarios under which lax at UND would make sense. Yeah, it's a 10-page thread, but it's (rarity of rarity on the 'net) more content than flame. PS - UND's report projects $2.5 million for just a 500 seat stadium. I don't see the logic in that at all.

None of those have hockey either. What ever shall UND do? There's a whole lacrosse thread that explores the notion.

This article points to that conclusion. Television isn't going to jump aboard a money-loser.

Congratulations to this year's DI mens lacrosse average attendance leader: Navy. http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=4070 In that same link you can see that Navy's first round NCAA game got TV, radio, and 'net broadcasts:

Yup. There's just one minor little problem: There's a 15000 per game average attendance requirement to play DI-A football. You'd have to add on to The Alerus Center to hold that many. Then again, other schools have found "creative" ways to duck that. No, wait, hold on, what's it say here on the first page of the Attachements to the Final Report? But still, you have to walk before you run.

Well thank you for that. I assume you did the same for NDSU when they went DI with a previous-year "red" budget. However, I can't decide what's most humorous about this whole thread-rant (from all sides): - UND's already been assigned as going. (CEK may have something to say about that yet.) - People don't want to look at the closest neighbor's athletic budget results to see what things UND might be able to learn from them. - Believing that UND, if going, and after this much study, doesn't have answers to the tough questions that we aren't privy to (yet). All along CEK has come back to "cost" primarily (and "conference" after that). Either LTC Buning is deaf and didn't hear General Kupchella (and will get "demoted" for it), or LTC Buning has some artillery lined up.