The Sicatoka

The day the settlement was announced Goetz talked about a change in public policy. Goetz was the NDUS Chancellor at the time, having just previously been Gov. Hoeven's chief of staff. Given that, you know the change had to come from the highest levels in Bismarck. The fix was in right there. Apparently Al Carlson didn't get the memo. The specifics on what Goetz said: http://www.uscho.com/2007/10/26/north-dakota-ncaa-reach-outofcourt-settlement-in-nickname-dispute/#ixzz1QnH6BzTi

More from Ed Schafer. A pretty good read actually. http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/208333

I just realized that when I read this thread title I get thirsty and check my watch to see if it's 5 pm.

There is one thing that I'd like Jody Hodgson to tell the NCAA: If you won't allow NCAA games in my building because of logos, I'm going to sue you if you ever put an NCAA event into United Center with all of its Blackhawk logos. Make it real to them where they live (money).

I'm going to toss out a previous notion I had with a minor modification: Green Reaper Yes, singular. "The Reaper" for short: "We Reap, you weap." And for all those saying someone won't like it, well, it has something for everyone: For the milquetoast-bed-wetter crowd we'd use the (earth-loving, organic farming) "Mr. Greenjeans" (from Captain Kangaroo) as our logo. For the ag history folks in ND we'd paint a McCormick reaper (harvester) green as a logo. For the UAV future of the region we'd paint an MQ-9 Reaper green and use that as a logo. And for the black jerseys ...

A fairly wise soul told me once, "Anybody can say anything." Remember that when you hear the talking heads on television blather on to kill segments between commercials.

Former US Ag Secretary, former ND Governor, UND alumnus Ed Schafer chimes in as well. http://plainsdaily.com/entry/ed-schafer-time-for-fighting-sioux-nickname-to-go/

Do we need a defensive end? http://www.foxsportsarizona.com/06/29/11/Former-Wildcat-Elmore-dreams-of-resuming/landing_azwildcats.html?blockID=535828&feedID=3702

I'm wondering if it isn't so that the meeting can be considered "private" and they can skirt the open meeting laws.

Like whom, the Office of Civil Rights? Oh yeah, ... that'll help.

I'm glad to see at least jodcon got the points of my response.

I've got 3-to-1 that says they don't even silence the ringers on their phones.

Carlson et al are going to come back calling it "Our Rectum Got Poked" tour.

As if with Minnesota and Wisconsin leaving, the WCHA is any position to dump UND. Plus, the Badgers and Gophers showed their true colors about how they really felt about the nickname after they announced their plans to leave the conference. Is there any love for our logo in St. Cloud and Mankato and Duluth? When's the last time you heard McLeod speak strongly in favor of UND keeping its nickname? I'm guessing that he feels the need to keep a low profile on the issue.

Here's the most pragmatic approach I've seen yet. http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/208211/ A sample from the article: To those that say non-UND people are trying to change the name, it's pretty tough to discredit the credentials of this group. And I'm with Morris.

Bruce Sutter? Hard-throwing, MLB HOF, right-handed reliever?

At what other costs? As Carlson himself put it, the well has been poisoned. This issue will now be on the minds of all of the Big Sky presidents. It's an issue for the NCAA so they'll make whomever they need to aware of their "concerns". Unless the NCAA comes out and says, "OK, we were wrong. We'll treat UND just like FSU, Utah, and CMU, one tribe/closest namesake tribe approval is good enough. We're fine with UND as long as they stay in good standing with Spirit Lake" ... great. But that still doesn't solve the local moniker policies at Minnesota and Wisconsin. Once they are out of the WCHA those policies kick in and we won't be playing them in hockey. That bears repeating. Even if the NCAA backs off, that still doesn't solve the local moniker policies at Minnesota and Wisconsin. Once they are out of the WCHA those policies kick in and we won't be playing them in hockey.

Yesterday's action was by the UNIVERSITY Senate (made up of faculty), not the Student Senate. That is all. Thank you.

The problem about the cards left to play is this: the NCAA is holding all the trump (the settlement agreement).

How'd Bruce do ... Ambroz - 28, actual 128 = -100 Lucia - 30, actual 60 = -30 Total: -130 Average per picked = -65 My average per picked was only -13.

And there folks is the other problem. We've seen how fickle tribal politics can be. All it will take is one minor event, one molehill made mountain, and UND is stuck back into this same position. There's a reason the ND SBoHE wanted a 30 year contractual agreement (and not just a recindable "perpetual" statement). It's in italics.

A question for the legal-eagles that peruse this forum: Don't laws have to have a penalty associated with them to make them enforceable? If you speed and get caught you get a ticket and a fine per the penalty associated with the traffic laws. If you are 19 and have an open beer in your hand that's minor in posession, a class B (?) misdemeanor under state law, with penalty specified by law. If you murder someone that's a class A felony with penalty associated by law. So, "Fighting Sioux" is the moniker of UND is the law. So, what's the penalty for violation? Ticket? Misdemeanor? Felony? Without a defined penalty for violation, where's the enforcement? No prosecutor will take a case that has no penalty for the offender, will they? Some of you are saying the law is unconstitutional under state law. I say it is unenforceable without a defined penalty, and the law doesn't define one. State law says the state bird is the western meadowlark and the state horse is the Nokota. If I print up a brochure claiming they are the crow and the clydesdale do I face a ticket? The death penalty? It's the same kind of state law unless there's a defined penalty.

NCAA sanction list or not, as long as there are Big Sky Presidents who think more like Roy Saigo (former SCSU president) and less like 2/3 of Spirit Lake Nation the moniker will be an "issue".

In other news, the sun rose in the east.