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[UNDBIZ]

ScottM, on 09 May 2012 - 09:21 AM, said:

Oh yeah, that'll show 'em. I have a better idea. Why don't you drive to Indianapolis, park yourself in front of the NC$$ headquarters, douse yourself in gasoline and strike a match? May as well "send a message" that gets more than 5 seconds of TV coverage ...

You really are delusional.

I'll pay for the gas....

[82SiouxGuy]

UNDBIZ, on 09 May 2012 - 09:35 AM, said:

I'll pay for the gas....

I'll help with transportation costs.

[bincitysioux]

DaveK, on 08 May 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

My point all along is that I think UND needs to put the ball in the NCAA's court by telling them "either we continue on as the Fighting Sioux without sanctions or else we pull the plug on athletics altogether".

How does that "put the ball in the NCAA's court"?

I have to hear this..........................

[jdub27]

bincitysioux, on 10 May 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

How does that "put the ball in the NCAA's court"?

I have to hear this..........................

Don't expect a response (or at least one that has anything to do with the question you asked).

[82SiouxGuy]

bincitysioux, on 10 May 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

How does that "put the ball in the NCAA's court"?

I have to hear this..........................

A better question might be "What do you really think would be the result, or the reaction from the NCAA?"  My guess is it would be something like "So sorry to see you leave, and don't let the door hit you on the way out."

[The Sicatoka]

82SiouxGuy, on 10 May 2012 - 08:35 AM, said:

A better question might be "What do you really think would be the result, or the reaction from the NCAA?"  My guess is it would be something like "So sorry to see you leave, and don't let the door hit you on the way out."

I doubt the NCAA would waste that much breath.
It'd be more like, "See ya."

[jdub27]

The Sicatoka, on 10 May 2012 - 09:48 AM, said:

I doubt the NCAA would waste that much breath.
It'd be more like, "See ya."

That is about all they would be able to get out because they would be laughing once they realized you were being serious.

[ScottM]

The Sicatoka, on 10 May 2012 - 09:48 AM, said:

I doubt the NCAA would waste that much breath. It'd be more like, "See ya."

"Don't let the door hit ya on the a$$."

[watchmaker49]

More like their responce would be, "Geez there are a lot of idiots in North Dakota".

[darell1976]

UND leaving the NCAA isn't going to matter to the NCAA. They don't care about UND. They know with hockey UND needs the NCAA or else UND won't make money on their #1 sport. I am sure UND can survive the NAIA with games against top dogs Mayville State, and Jamestown but hockey won't survive. Name stays = doom for UND athletics. Plain and simple.

[ScottM]

watchmaker49, on 10 May 2012 - 11:19 AM, said:

More like their responce would be, "Geez there are a lot of idiots in North Dakota".

I'm sure they were left with that exact impression after dealing with Clueless Al last year.

[82SiouxGuy]

ScottM, on 10 May 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

I'm sure they were left with that exact impression after dealing with Clueless Al last year.

They've probably gotten some e-mails and letters that have left the same impression over the past few years.

[DaveK]

bincitysioux, on 10 May 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

How does that "put the ball in the NCAA's court"?

I have to hear this..........................

Do you understand the meaning of the word "ultimatum"? In this particular case the NCAA would have to decide if they're willing to lose a member school over their hateful and racist policy. If they chose to keep the policy over keeping a member school it makes them look rather petty to state it mildly.

[UNDBIZ]

Actually it would make North Dakota look like a bunch of idiots.....

[JohnboyND7]

DaveK, on 08 May 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

My point all along is that I think UND needs to put the ball in the NCAA's court by telling them "either we continue on as the Fighting Sioux without sanctions or else we pull the plug on athletics altogether". Let's either do it our way or else not do it at all, because there is no honor in conforming to the unreasonable demands of a tyrant.

UND is not a big enough deal for the NCAA to care at all.  If say....the BCS conferences all said that they were not going to stand for something, the NCAA would sweat.  But why would the NCAA, care about a new division 1 school who really isn't nationally significant?  If UND dropped out of sports at this point, college hockey fans would notice.  It'd be the same thing if NDSU threatened to leave the NCAA.  If you think that it would be any skin off of their back to watch UND walk away, it wouldn't.  In all honesty, it might even make them happy because the nuisance that the nickname stuff has caused at UND.

DaveK, the state AG signed off on it, the state board of higher ed. signed off on it.  Apparently, it your world, the honorable thing to do is to go back on your word.  Say what you want about it being an unreasonable demand, but if you want to be part of the organization, you better just deal with it.  And every other school with an indian mascot fixed the problem.  Might just be time for you to accept that if UND keeps the name, the athletic programs you will be watching within 5-10 years are going to be exceptional average at best.  If you get rid of the name(it is only a name, get over it.) UND athletics have a chance to be successful.  You think it sucked being a UND fan while NDSU was on its run to the NC this year, wait until UND is no more significant to people in the state than Minot St. or U Mary.

[JohnboyND7]

UNDBIZ, on 09 May 2012 - 09:35 AM, said:

I'll pay for the gas....

I'll buy the HD camera that DaveK isn't impressed with.

[The Sicatoka]

DaveK, on 11 May 2012 - 05:32 AM, said:

Do you understand the meaning of the word "ultimatum"? In this particular case the NCAA would have to decide if they're willing to lose a member school over their hateful and racist policy. If they chose to keep the policy over keeping a member school it makes them look rather petty to state it mildly.

Do you understand the meaning of the word "ultimatum"?
You have to be in a position of power to give ultimatums. UND is not in such a position.  

There are over 1200 members in the NCAA. They won't notice, heck, won't care about, the disappearance of one, especially one that's dared flaunt the rules of the organization.

[82SiouxGuy]

bincitysioux, on 10 May 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

How does that "put the ball in the NCAA's court"?

I have to hear this..........................

Was it everything that you'd hoped for?  Why didn't anyone else think of giving the NCAA an "ultimatum"?  Especially an "ultimatum" that "embarrasses" them by forcing them to either "lose" a school that keeps bothering them, or make them look "petty".  Why, the plan is

[DaveK]

JohnboyND7, on 11 May 2012 - 08:09 AM, said:

UND is not a big enough deal for the NCAA to care at all.  If say....the BCS conferences all said that they were not going to stand for something, the NCAA would sweat.  But why would the NCAA, care about a new division 1 school who really isn't nationally significant?  If UND dropped out of sports at this point, college hockey fans would notice.  It'd be the same thing if NDSU threatened to leave the NCAA.  If you think that it would be any skin off of their back to watch UND walk away, it wouldn't.  In all honesty, it might even make them happy because the nuisance that the nickname stuff has caused at UND.

DaveK, the state AG signed off on it, the state board of higher ed. signed off on it.  Apparently, it your world, the honorable thing to do is to go back on your word.  Say what you want about it being an unreasonable demand, but if you want to be part of the organization, you better just deal with it.  And every other school with an indian mascot fixed the problem.  Might just be time for you to accept that if UND keeps the name, the athletic programs you will be watching within 5-10 years are going to be exceptional average at best.  If you get rid of the name(it is only a name, get over it.) UND athletics have a chance to be successful.  You think it sucked being a UND fan while NDSU was on its run to the NC this year, wait until UND is no more significant to people in the state than Minot St. or U Mary.

If that were true the NCAA wouldn't be trying to hard to kill it.

[JohnboyND7]

DaveK, on 11 May 2012 - 11:57 AM, said:

If that were true the NCAA wouldn't be trying to hard to kill it.

Because some people were probably making a big deal out of it.