coach daddy Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 True, the record could be better based upon a probably pretty soft schedule. But whether the caliber of play is better is another question. The only way caliber of play improves is with new players. This group either doesn't get it or can't get it. And I for one, do NOT want a bunch of transfers from all over the country coming in here and screwing things up any longer!!! Go find 6-8 freshman and teach them the game the way the coaches want the game played. We'll get beat next year but at least we grow an attachment to the team and follow them for 4-5 years. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 I wish I had the answer. We're small. We need to get bigger players. (That's my guess at least.) Quote
The Walrus Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 We're small. We need to get bigger players. (That's my guess at least.) or Taller......? Quote
Blackhawk19 Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 We need a dominate post and a dominate guard or forward that can PASS the ball to the post. I think the team forgot one of the fundamentals of basketball and that is PASSING. Quote
UND92,96 Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 You really have to hand it to MSU-Mankato coach Matt Margenthaler. He lost league mvp Luke Anderson, plus two other all-NCC players from last year's team, and returned no all-conference players, and yet has clinched the league title this year. I know some find him a bit abrasive, but he's apparently a heck of a coach. Quote
UND92,96 Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 UND fell behind 20-0 to start the game last night. Please, let this season end already. It's an absolute trainwreck. Quote
UND92,96 Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 UND has to win one of its last two games to avoid having its fewest conference wins ever. 2-10 is the worst conference record in UND history, which last happened in the 1959-60 season. It would be pretty sad to have our worst season ever in the final year of the NCC. Quote
hky Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 UND fell behind 20-0 to start the game last night. Please, let this season end already. It's an absolute trainwreck. Quote
coach daddy Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 Can we officially put this season to rest. If we were a horse, they'd shoot us!!! Quote
bincitysioux Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 They can play in the NIT, I believe, not that is going to matter!!! The NIT is not associated with the NCAA. They can qualify for the NIT during the transition, the SDSU women's team did last year. The NIT is actually owned and operated by the NCAA. Obviously, with the state of the Men's program, it is not a realistic goal, but getting an NIT bid for either the men's or women's program will surely become the ultimate goal until the transition is over. Question for our NDSU friends, did the far-flung scheduling alliance that the xDSU's participated in, the United Basketball Conference, keep leauge stats, records, standings, etc.? Quote
star2city Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 They can play in the NIT, I believe, not that is going to matter!!! The NIT is not associated with the NCAA. Actually, the men''s NIT is now owned by the NCAA, which woud not invite non-eligible schools to any of it's tournaments. There is a new post-season tournament being formed the College Basketball Invitational, which UND would be eligible for. The women's NIT is not owned by the NCAA, so UND would be eligible for that. edit: Bin beat me. Quote
bincitysioux Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 Actually, the men''s NIT is now owned by the NCAA, which woud not invite non-eligible schools to any of it's tournaments. There is a new post-season tournament being formed the College Basketball Invitational, which UND would be eligible for. The women's NIT is not owned by the NCAA, so UND would be eligible for that. edit: Bin beat me. I didn't know that the NCAA only had control of the Men's NIT and not the women's. Are you sure that non-eligible teams would not be invited? I seem to recall that being one of NDSU's big goals in Miles' last two years. Quote
Hammersmith Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 They can qualify for the NIT during the transition, the SDSU women's team did last year. The NIT is actually owned and operated by the NCAA. Obviously, with the state of the Men's program, it is not a realistic goal, but getting an NIT bid for either the men's or women's program will surely become the ultimate goal until the transition is over. Question for our NDSU friends, did the far-flung scheduling alliance that the xDSU's participated in, the United Basketball Conference, keep leauge stats, records, standings, etc.? I don't believe so. Tim Miles joked that he had named himself commissioner of the league. As far as I know, there is/was no website, office, or paperwork regarding the UBC. It was just a pretty name for a scheduling alliance. The United Soccer Conference, on the other hand, is a real conference. After a quick internet search, there are a couple websites, but they're unofficial. BTW, Star is correct about the men's NIT. Since it was bought by the NCAA, transitional teams no longer qualify. Quote
star2city Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 I didn't know that the NCAA only had control of the Men's NIT and not the women's. Are you sure that non-eligible teams would not be invited? I seem to recall that being one of NDSU's big goals in Miles' last two years. The NIT had been one of Miles' goals, but the NIT's lawsuit against the NCAA (and the NCAA's settlement, buying out the NIT for 56.5 milllion) altered Miles' hopes. Wiki: Unlike the men's NIT, the WNIT is not operated by the NCAA, nor was it operated by the Metropolitan Intercollegiate Basketball Association, the body which ran the men's NIT for virtually all of its history until the NCAA purchased that tournament in 2005. Currently, the WNIT is owned and promoted by Triple Crown Sports, a Denver, Colorado-based promotion and marketing company. Quote
bincitysioux Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 I don't believe so. Tim Miles joked that he had named himself commissioner of the league. As far as I know, there is/was no website, office, or paperwork regarding the UBC. It was just a pretty name for a scheduling alliance. The United Soccer Conference, on the other hand, is a real conference. After a quick internet search, there are a couple websites, but they're unofficial. Thanks. It seems to me that it would be wise for UND to band together with all or many of the other independent and transtional schools and put together some sort of system to allow the schools to compete for a conference (I use that term loosely) championship, and for the student-athletes to receive weekley and yearly honors from. What would the reason be for not doing it? That is, essentially what the Great West Football Conference is. It would be pretty simple I'd think. All it would require is one person to keep track of stats and send out a weekly press release. I believe that there are actually more independents now than when the xDSU's moved up. CSU-Bakersfield Longwood Chicago St. New Jersey Institute of Technology Savannah State Texas-PanAm Utah Valley St. North Dakota South Dakota Seattle SIU-Edwardsville Houston Baptist North Carolina Central UND, USD, Seattle, and SIU-Edwardsville already have a scheduling agreement. I would think that New Jersey Tech, Texas-PanAm, and Utah Valley would be willing to join in the fun, since they had the UBC arrangements with NDSU, SDSU, and IPFW, so the UxD's and SIU would make good geographical replacements for games on their schedules. Quote
Hawkster Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Back in about December of 2006 I made a post about how bad the men's BB team was and what a long road we had ahead of us and I got jumped on all over about it. Basketball was always my favorite sport to watch, and I sure miss the glory days of the 1970's. The longer we wait, the harder it's going to be to return to those days, although I don't know what the answer is either. Quote
SiouxMD Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 It seems to me that it would be wise for UND to band together with all or many of the other independent and transtional schools and put together some sort of system to allow the schools to compete for a conference (I use that term loosely) championship, and for the student-athletes to receive weekley and yearly honors from. What would the reason be for not doing it? That is, essentially what the Great West Football Conference is. It would be pretty simple I'd think. All it would require is one person to keep track of stats and send out a weekly press release. I believe that there are actually more independents now than when the xDSU's moved up. CSU-Bakersfield Longwood Chicago St. New Jersey Institute of Technology Savannah State Texas-PanAm Utah Valley St. North Dakota South Dakota Seattle SIU-Edwardsville Houston Baptist North Carolina Central UND, USD, Seattle, and SIU-Edwardsville already have a scheduling agreement. I would think that New Jersey Tech, Texas-PanAm, and Utah Valley would be willing to join in the fun, since they had the UBC arrangements with NDSU, SDSU, and IPFW, so the UxD's and SIU would make good geographical replacements for games on their schedules. NJIT just finished their season 0 fer 29...a new NCAA record. NJIT is 5-53 since moving to Division I. Quote
coach daddy Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 NJIT just finished their season 0 fer 29...a new NCAA record. Lets play them home and home next year; we need the wins!!! Quote
SiouxMD Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Lets play them home and home next year; we need the wins!!! Would we win? Quote
UND92,96 Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Would we win? It would be an epic battle. Quote
coach daddy Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Would we win? We could at least split!! Quote
UND92,96 Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 It's kind of interesting to compare the fortunes of UND and UNO this year. The two teams had nearly identical records last year, and seemed to be returning comparable talent (although UNO was picked to finish last in the NCC this year--two spots below UND). And yet somehow, UND has gotten worse than last year, while UNO is a respectable 6-4 in the NCC, with a fine overall record of 20-5. Quote
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