unh/sioux saturday

[brianvf]

That was the same series where the student section chanted overated at UND.

And the same game that featured the Ryan Hale/John Scott fight.

[redwing77]

Part of it has to be TH's critique because radio is all I have to go on. I've recounted numerous times (usually vs Minny because I usually mute the TV and put on the radio for the audio part) TH will call an official's call a bad call when he's just being a homer. No visual aspect makes my recaps more critiques and my critiques more based on what I hear. It's a subjective critique to a subjective critique in other words.

So, yeah, unfortunately I have to rely a bit on TH because he can see the game and I can't (didn't get the webcast because everyone in GF was tuned in ). I try to be a bit different from TH, but then again, I don't claim to be as good a recap writer as PCM, mikejm, or whomever.

Maybe I need a disclaimer

[I Ranger]

Well I got to see my first two Sioux games one of which was on CSTV and the other being the webcast so I figure I better throughout a few of my observations.

I agree with everyone about Toews and Oshie. Oshie really impressed me. I didn't think he was ready for the WCHA but I guess I was way off here. Overall, I thought the D was pretty good with a few mistakes each night but that will happen. Teams should take note that they should not try to make a move on Smaby at the blueline because he absolutely hammered a few guys who tried this weekend. JPar is a stud. The grinder line played well. I wish Miller or Martens got a chance go play rather than Foyt just because I know what Foyt can do but I wanted to see what Miller and Martens had.

Overall, the one big thing I noticed that could be a weakness was faceoffs. It seemed as if we lost every draw. UNH had controll off many faceoffs which could cause many problems especially in the D zone.

Anyways thats my two cents and I can't wait to be in GF this weekend for the Denver series and see the boys live.

[Kermit]

I wish Miller or Martens got a chance go play rather than Foyt just because I know what Foyt can do but I wanted to see what Miller and Martens had.

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I was thinking the same thing. OTOH, we saw Miller against Northeastern and he may not be physically ready to contribute. He really needs to get stronger. Perhaps by playing Foyt, Hakstol gave us an indication of the importance he attached to these early-season non-conference games. They might be very important in the PWR later and the Sioux definitely want to be in the Ralph for the regional.

Overall, the one big thing I noticed that could be a weakness was faceoffs.  It seemed as if we lost every draw.  UNH had controll off many faceoffs which could cause many problems especially in the D zone.

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According to Hennessy, Kaip was -8 on faceoffs Friday while the rest of the team was even. I'm not sure about Saturday. I like Kaip's overall play, but if that trend continues, he might be better off on a wing while someone else plays center.

[Goon]

I was thinking the same thing. OTOH, we saw Miller against Northeastern and he may not be physically ready to contribute. He really needs to get stronger. Perhaps by playing Foyt, Hakstol gave us an indication of the importance he attached to these early-season non-conference games.

I was wondering what you think Foyt brings to the table? I would rather see what a talented rookie can do. Miller did ok, during the NE series, but your right, Miller needs to eat some dog food, get meaner, get bigger and spend some time in the weight room.

Edited October 24, 2005 by Goon

[I Ranger]

According to Hennessy, Kaip was -8 on faceoffs Friday while the rest of the team was even. I'm not sure about Saturday. I like Kaip's overall play, but if that trend continues, he might be better off on a wing while someone else plays center.

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[Kermit]

I was wondering what you think Foyt brings to the table? I would rather see what a talented rookie can do. Miller did ok, during the NE series, but your right, Miller

[redwing77]

[Sioux_Hab-it]

Overall, the one big thing I noticed that could be a weakness was faceoffs.  It seemed as if we lost every draw.  UNH had controll off many faceoffs which could cause many problems especially in the D zone.

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Personally, I thought that winning key faceoffs was the only thing keeping UNH in both games. Although they had the speed they didn't have the talent to match the Sioux otherwise.

[I Ranger]

Here is a question I want to throw out but really don't know much about. Would it have been possible to send Miller back to Green Bay this year to work on his strength or was he already coming? Because the way I see it is if he isn't strong enough and the coaches know that and he probably knows that wouldn't have been best for both parties to have him play another year in the USHL.

[bubble874]

Personally, I don't know how anyone can judge Miller. How can you even fathom the outlook for someone who has played 4 shifts his entire Sioux career. I think it is rediculous to jump to conclusions. At least give him a chance to show what he can do. He does not belong on the grind line either, possibly third line, because he was brought here to score not check.

[dagies]

Having never played the answer to this question might be, well, obvious to others....

I know the center and wings have their roles to play. However, if a wing is better at taking face-offs, how disruptive is it for the center to go over to the wing slot for the faceoff and the wing come in to take the faceoff and handle the center responsibilities for a few moments. I also realize off a face-off there are responsibilities but one would think that in the chaos of a freewheeling play the two would sort themselves back into their regular roles quite quickly.

Anyone?

[PCM]

Here is a question I want to throw out but really don't know much about.  Would it have been possible to send Miller back to Green Bay this year to work on his strength or was he already coming?  Because the way I see it is if he isn't strong enough and the coaches know that and he probably knows that wouldn't have been best for both parties to have him play another year in the USHL.

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If Miller needs to gain strength, he's in the right place to do it.

"It's so much easier to get bigger and stronger here and become a better hockey player." - T.J. Oshie

[roper1313]

Having never played the answer to this question might be, well, obvious to others....

I know the center and wings have their roles to play.  However, if a wing is better at taking face-offs, how disruptive is it for the center to go over to the wing slot for the faceoff and the wing come in to take the faceoff and handle the center responsibilities for a few moments.  I also realize off a face-off there are responsibilities but one would think that in the chaos of a freewheeling play the two would sort themselves back into their regular roles quite quickly.

Anyone?

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Dagies-

Really wouldn't be an issue as long as the center knows his responsibilities in the defensive zone. Typically a center is a center and should be decent on faceoffs. Perhaps Kiap was going against one of the best face off men in the country. You never know who you are going up against initially. A 4th liner might be a teams best face off man.

[redwing77]

roper-

Last year our best faceoff man was our 3rd liner (McMahon)

[schmidtdoggydog]

roper-

Last year our best faceoff man was our 3rd liner (McMahon)

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Are you sure?

2004-05 stats:

13 Lee Marvin 23 1 0 1.000

28 Robbie Bina 32 1 0 1.000

8 Nick Fuher 43 2 1 .667

15 Travis Zajac 45 485 363 .572

10 Rory McMahon 42 423 364 .537

14 Brady Murray 25 16 14 .533

24 Chris Porter 45 44 39 .530

9 Quinn Fylling 45 236 218 .520

29 Colby Genoway 44 159 148 .518

22 Brian Canady 36 89 85 .511

20 James Massen 41 8 8 .500

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17 Rylan Kaip 22 36 57 .387

Even if you discount Marvin, Bina and Fuher, which you should, McMahon still wasn't the leader!

[Goon]

Are you sure?

2004-05 stats:

13 Lee Marvin 23 1 0 1.000

28 Robbie Bina 32 1 0 1.000

8 Nick Fuher 43 2 1 .667

15 Travis Zajac 45 485 363 .572

10 Rory McMahon 42 423 364 .537

14 Brady Murray 25 16 14 .533

24 Chris Porter 45 44 39 .530

9 Quinn Fylling 45 236 218 .520

29 Colby Genoway 44 159 148 .518

22 Brian Canady 36 89 85 .511

20 James Massen 41 8 8 .500

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17 Rylan Kaip 22 36 57 .387

Even if you discount Marvin, Bina and Fuher, which you should, McMahon still wasn't the leader!

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First off, oh my God I didn't know they have people that do stats on this stuff also. Looks like as far as forwards go Zajac is the man. I agree with someone that said that Kaip should be a wing.

[dagies]

First off, oh my God I didn't know they have people that do stats on this stuff also. Looks like as far as forwards go Zajac is the man. I agree with someone that said that Kaip should be a wing.

There's more to life than just face-offs for a center, though. Maybe he's better at the other responsibilities.

[jk]

gibber from uscho has posted some photos from the weekend:

http://www.joshgibney.com/hockey/photos.html

There's one particularly nice one from Saturday of Smaby crushing someone at the blueline.

[HockeyMom]

There's one particularly nice one from Saturday of Smaby crushing someone at the blueline.

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That pic made me smile.

[Runninwiththedogs]

gibber from uscho has posted some photos from the weekend:

http://www.joshgibney.com/hockey/photos.html

There's one particularly nice one from Saturday of Smaby crushing someone at the blueline.

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That looks like it might have tickled a bit.

Those were some great photo sets, I saw several blatant penalties.