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26 minutes ago, nascar99 said:

Gruba is a meh depth player who got hyped up like he was far better than what he is in reality. That's my point. Depth guys are necessary but they are what they are, they aren't elite.

Slukynsky is a great development story, but there was no indication that he'd breakout when he transferred from Northern Michigan to Western Michigan, other than Ferschweiler being elite at turning nobodies into dudes every year

My point is that he produced at the next level and his recruitment wasn’t based on huge numbers in high school, at least his second recruitment.  He played half that year at age 19, was defenseman of the year, led the league in +/-, and led defensemen in goals and points, as well as being on a team that won the championship, so I think most teams would take a player that has produced like that in a league where they actually play defense. He hasn’t played well in college, but that is the case with most players who were studs on their junior teams.   

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8 minutes ago, tnt said:

My point is that he produced at the next level and his recruitment wasn’t based on huge numbers in high school, at least his second recruitment.  He played half that year at age 19, was defenseman of the year, led the league in +/-, and led defensemen in goals and points, as well as being on a team that won the championship, so I think most teams would take a player that has produced like that in a league where they actually play defense. He hasn’t played well in college, but that is the case with most players who were studs on their junior teams.   

Production at a good rate, but not elite rate as a 20 year old on a stacked team (I know the USHL plays defense for the most part, but if you're truly great, you produce way more as a 20 year old) does not indicate you're going to produce a ton of offense at the NCAA level. Gophers fans keep thinking the offense should be there from Gruba when it was really a mirage. Ben Robertson produced at a very quality rate for a defenseman in the USHL, but he did so in his 18 year old season & you've seen a better translation of that offense both at Cornell & now at Michigan.

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