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The logic of great players moving up all throughout youth hockey to play against older and stronger players will continue as it always has. Yes the CHL will be the best JR league for 16-18 year old players. But once players get past that 18 year old season there's a logical diminishing of returns for continuing to stay in the CHL for your great players that want to continue to make steps in development.  

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TSU official statement, looks like the NHL, Preds, and College Hockey Inc. had to step in and tell them to take their time and do it right.

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NASHVILLE — Tennessee State University announced today that the launch of its historic men's hockey program will shift to the 2026-27 season. The decision, made in collaboration with the National Hockey League (NHL), the Nashville Predators, and College Hockey Inc., underscores a shared commitment to building a sustainable and competitive program from day one.

The announcement coincides with a $250,000 grant from the NHL/ National Hockey League Players Association (NHLPA) Industry Growth Fund and continued support from the Nashville Predators. TSU remains poised to become the first historically Black college or university (HBCU) to sponsor NCAA Division I men's ice hockey.

"Working closely with the NHL and the Predators, we agree that an additional year will provide the program with the time and resources it needs to launch at full strength and with long-term financial success in mind," said TSU Interim President Dwayne Tucker.

The extra preparation period will focus on recruiting, facility planning, staff development, and fundraising efforts. It also aligns with a broader vision to grow the sport of hockey in diverse communities.

"We continue to look forward to helping to make the Division I hockey dream a reality at Tennessee State," said Bill Wickett, Chief Marketing Officer of the Nashville Predators. "We applaud University leadership, led by interim President Tucker,  for its desire to ensure that when the Tigers step on the ice for the first time, they are doing it for a long time, and we pledge to walk hand-in-hand with that leadership in making it happen."

 

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https://www.si.com/college/minnesota/gophers-hockey/is-gavin-mckenna-s-commitment-a-warning-sign-for-the-gophers
 

Maybe Minnesota’s anti Canadian slant is going to start being a bigger issue.  Think they will still be competitive, but don’t have the built-in advantages they used to have.  Remember when the gopher cheerleaders paraded an “America’s Team” banner around the ice in the old Ralph?  That kind of arrogance should be used against them now in recruiting the Canadian CHL studs.

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If it does get rejected they’ll have to use rev-share money. Which is gona piss a lot of people off at Penn state internally haha. That rev share money is NOT meant for hockey I’d assume, definitely meant for football.

It sounds like a lot of FBS teams are using close to all of the 20.5 million cap on football at least in year 1. Which is good from UNDs hockey perspective imo
 

Once August 1st hits schools can offer rev share contracts now so it would be pretty funny to see UND announce deals for all of its hockey players while Michigan and Penn state can’t announce any because it’s all been spent up by football / basketball. 

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8 minutes ago, atxsioux said:

It sounds like a lot of FBS teams are using close to all of the 20.5 million cap on football at least in year 1. Which is good from UNDs hockey perspective imo

Once August 1st hits schools can offer rev share contracts now so it would be pretty funny to see UND announce deals for all of its hockey players while Michigan and Penn state can’t announce any because it’s all been spent up by football / basketball. 

Yes, I think that rev share will definitely benefit schools like UND where hockey is the #1 sport...there aren't many of those schools either.

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2 hours ago, brianvf said:

Yes, I think that rev share will definitely benefit schools like UND where hockey is the #1 sport...there aren't many of those schools either.

Having an elite hockey program is very important to the university. Opting into the revenue sharing settlement is huge for us in recruiting, in my opinion. Hopefully administration looks at revenue sharing as an investment. 
 

If DuPont costs 500k, the amount of attention he will give the university is worth that price, in my opinion. You not only put more fans in the seats, but more eyes on the television. When you add up everything, I guarantee you that it would have a positive return on investment. It is a good way to advertise for the university and would be more affective than a billboards on I-29.

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11 hours ago, brianvf said:

Yes, I think that rev share will definitely benefit schools like UND where hockey is the #1 sport...there aren't many of those schools either.

The difference is the P4 schools actually have significant revenue to share. Everyone below that level is already operating at a deficit so figuring out how that is going to work within existing budgets is going to be an uphill battle. Which is why donations to the 701 Award fund is going to be important to help with NIL.

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Things could change of course but based on the current settlement NIL as "pay for play" is more or less done. (obviously you could still pay players under the table)

  • NIL will still exist but it will be for the case of players getting a share of their jersey sales or being able to do add deals for products (bauer, Deeks, etc)
    • "NIL Go" is ran by Deloitte and now reviews all NIL deals as of June/July this summer. As of present day it sounds like any absurd deals that don't make any true "Business purpose sense" will be rejected.
  • Rev share is a 20.5 million cap (you cant spend above that)
    • Most football schools are already spending 100% of that cap on football especially in the SEC/Big 12. So the big 10 can say they aren't going to do that but I'm skeptical because as we all know football is King. Things could change but I think Michigan, Penn State, etc are going to allocate almost nothing to hockey.
  • UND brings in 500K minimum from NCHC streaming alone per schloss + add in Midco money for hockey + CBS TV revenue + I'd assume a share of ticket revenue. That's a hefty amount of money yearly that UND can choose to spend. I'd guess they do the Michigan State model and split it up evenly for all players but we'll see.
    • Also rev share contracts will likely have a buyout that a team has to spend so a team would have to buyout a player from their deal at current school so they can transfer.
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40 minutes ago, atxsioux said:

Things could change of course but based on the current settlement NIL as "pay for play" is more or less done. (obviously you could still pay players under the table)

  • NIL will still exist but it will be for the case of players getting a share of their jersey sales or being able to do add deals for products (bauer, Deeks, etc)
    • "NIL Go" is ran by Deloitte and now reviews all NIL deals as of June/July this summer. As of present day it sounds like any absurd deals that don't make any true "Business purpose sense" will be rejected.
  • Rev share is a 20.5 million cap (you cant spend above that)
    • Most football schools are already spending 100% of that cap on football especially in the SEC/Big 12. So the big 10 can say they aren't going to do that but I'm skeptical because as we all know football is King. Things could change but I think Michigan, Penn State, etc are going to allocate almost nothing to hockey.
  • UND brings in 500K minimum from NCHC streaming alone per schloss + add in Midco money for hockey + CBS TV revenue + I'd assume a share of ticket revenue. That's a hefty amount of money yearly that UND can choose to spend. I'd guess they do the Michigan State model and split it up evenly for all players but we'll see.
    • Also rev share contracts will likely have a buyout that a team has to spend so a team would have to buyout a player from their deal at current school so they can transfer.

Now watch the naysayers insist that none of this is enforceable and will be overturned by a court.

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2 hours ago, atxsioux said:
  • UND brings in 500K minimum from NCHC streaming alone per schloss + add in Midco money for hockey + CBS TV revenue + I'd assume a share of ticket revenue. That's a hefty amount of money yearly that UND can choose to spend. I'd guess they do the Michigan State model and split it up evenly for all players but we'll see.
    • Also rev share contracts will likely have a buyout that a team has to spend so a team would have to buyout a player from their deal at current school so they can transfer.

These are the things that help fund UND's athletic department.
You can't magically allocate those funds to NIL pool and think things will continue to run with no issue.

Again, that's why extra donations to the 701 Awards are important to fill this gap.

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So we are the same page, NIL and Rev share are 2 completely different funds per the current house settlement. 

By "opting in" every school has agreed to pay student athletes a legally defined fair share of the revenue they make off the student athletes.

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1 hour ago, atxsioux said:

By "opting in" every school has agreed to pay student athletes a legally defined fair share of the revenue they make off the student athletes.

This is not quite accurate. No school is required to pay anything if they opt-in, it just gives them the ability to do so. I would guess most, if not all, will to some degree. Very few outside the P4 (and maybe even some on the bottom end of that) are going to get anywhere near $20.5 million (or 22.5% of revenue).

Not sure if/how the 22.5% of revenue part effects UND as if it is tied to a portion of total revenue, they would be capped at much lower than $20.5 million (which they wouldn't come close to anyway).

There are also new increased scholarship limits in other sports that will have to be funded to remain competitive in those sports.

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2 hours ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

Schloss from the top rope!

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/schlossman-college-hockeys-arms-race-has-pushed-its-resources-way-beyond-the-chls

I made the same point he makes about Bedard to a friend.  Also, calling out someone on Sportsnet by name! Hell yeah Brad.

Hope UND can save up some money (about $500k?) from its NIL and rev share for DuPont next season.  :)

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The ensuing swarm of media coverage has been focused on McKenna's NCAA hockey-record NIL deal. The Herald confirmed with sources that the deal hit at least $500,000.

 

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2 hours ago, cberkas said:

A few years ago, Minnesota was showing $5 million in excess revenue over expenses before an extra $8 million in outside allocated (government, school, etc) funds. That deficit number is pretty close to the difference. 

That's for a school with a huge media contract and $135 million in revenue. 

This is why payment numbers below the P4 level are going to be going to be much smaller. 

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