gfhockey Posted March 13 Posted March 13 6 minutes ago, HockeyHawk said: Albrecht told UND that if the project wasn’t completed by last fall the funding would be pulled so they had to get it done in a timely manner since he basically paid for the whole thing. UND did not have to do much. City gave them a 2.5 million loan I believe or park district at 1% so youth softball can use it yoo Quote
gfhockey Posted March 13 Posted March 13 https://www.grandforksherald.com/business/memorial-village-project-churns-ahead-first-tenants-moved-in-may-1 maybe it was $2 million Quote
The Sicatoka Posted March 13 Posted March 13 16 minutes ago, HockeyHawk said: Albrecht told UND that if the project wasn’t completed by last fall the funding would be pulled so they had to get it done in a timely manner since he basically paid for the whole thing. UND did not have to do much. ... just create infomation on the project details on short notice, reshuffle fundraising priorities of staff, lobby and present to the city, line up contractors on short notice, find materials in a fouled up supply chain, and get in front of other donors ... 1 Quote
GoodGood Posted March 13 Posted March 13 3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: ... just create infomation on the project details on short notice, reshuffle fundraising priorities of staff, lobby and present to the city, line up contractors on short notice, find materials in a fouled up supply chain, and get in front of other donors ... Credit to the athletic department for doing the bare minimum. Good job Quote
HoopsFan03 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 15 minutes ago, GoodGood said: Credit to the athletic department for doing the bare minimum. Good job I know there was a lot of frustration behind the scenes from one of the parties and how they were treated during the whole process. Quote
jdub27 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 52 minutes ago, HockeyHawk said: Albrecht told UND that if the project wasn’t completed by last fall the funding would be pulled so they had to get it done in a timely manner since he basically paid for the whole thing. UND did not have to do much. Are you sure about that? No doubt they gave a generous gift, but what was their input and what was the total cost? Not sure why there is insistence on underplaying coming up with sources for a huge chunk of funding and also getting a project done on an accelerated timeline? 31 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: ... just create infomation on the project details on short notice, reshuffle fundraising priorities of staff, lobby and present to the city, line up contractors on short notice, find materials in a fouled up supply chain, and get in front of other donors ... Not to mention sell the vision and convince someone to become the lead donor. Again, there is room for giving credit to more than just one person/group. Not sure the need to try to spin everything into a negative. 1 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted March 13 Posted March 13 38 minutes ago, GoodGood said: Credit to the athletic department for doing the bare minimum. Good job Everything is easy when your portion is just to say, "all you have to do is ... " 1 Quote
HockeyHawk Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, jdub27 said: Are you sure about that? No doubt they gave a generous gift, but what was their input and what was the total cost? Not sure why there is insistence on underplaying coming up with sources for a huge chunk of funding and also getting a project done on an accelerated timeline? Not to mention sell the vision and convince someone to become the lead donor. Again, there is room for giving credit to more than just one person/group. Not sure the need to try to spin everything into a negative. Albrecht wanted his daughter to play in a quality facility for her last year. UND didn’t approach him, he approached them. All UND had to do was meet his deadline for the facility and he was paying. UND athletics like to give themselves credit for this almost to a sickening extent. This was someone who came in and spent their own money so their daughter could have a last year in a better facility. The athletic department will take credit as usual when they’ve don’t next to nothing. 2 Quote
HoopsFan03 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 32 minutes ago, HockeyHawk said: Albrecht wanted his daughter to play in a quality facility for her last year. UND didn’t approach him, he approached them. All UND had to do was meet his deadline for the facility and he was paying. UND athletics like to give themselves credit for this almost to a sickening extent. This was someone who came in and spent their own money so their daughter could have a last year in a better facility. The athletic department will take credit as usual when they’ve don’t next to nothing. And Chaves found a way to piss him off during the process. Great work! Quote
iramurphy Posted March 13 Posted March 13 From the beginning of the project until the dedication, UND attributed credit to the Albrecht family. I never understood anyone from UND to say otherwise. With the request to move the project ahead so the Albrecht girl would get to play on the new field, it took a lot of work by UND staff to get the project completed on time. 1 Quote
jdub27 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, iramurphy said: From the beginning of the project until the dedication, UND attributed credit to the Albrecht family. I never understood anyone from UND to say otherwise. With the request to move the project ahead so the Albrecht girl would get to play on the new field, it took a lot of work by UND staff to get the project completed on time. Seems like a pretty straight-forward synopsis. And I agree, I don't think UND has ever patted themselves on the back for the project, giving all the credit to the donors as they do in pretty much every situation I can think of, but there has been a plan for a new softball field in the master plan for years. A donor approached UND and asked what it would take to move that timeline up. The answer was money and they convinced the donor to become the lead donor (and while it was a significant amount, it was nowhere near almost "the whole thing"). A donor provided an opportunity. The Alumni Association and Athletic Department did what they needed to do to make it a reality given the constraints that came with the donation (still needing to find funding for around half of the project and accelerate the timeline to get it done). Plenty of kudos for everyone, including the City who helped bridge the gap with a loan to finalize the funding. 3 1 Quote
gfhockey Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, HoopsFan03 said: And Chaves found a way to piss him off during the process. Great work! How’d they piss him off Quote
gfhockey Posted March 13 Posted March 13 29 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Seems like a pretty straight-forward synopsis. And I agree, I don't think UND has ever patted themselves on the back for the project, giving all the credit to the donors as they do in pretty much every situation I can think of, but there has been a plan for a new softball field in the master plan for years. A donor approached UND and asked what it would take to move that timeline up. The answer was money and they convinced the donor to become the lead donor (and while it was a significant amount, it was nowhere near almost "the whole thing"). A donor provided an opportunity. The Alumni Association and Athletic Department did what they needed to do to make it a reality given the constraints that came with the donation (still needing to find funding for around half of the project and accelerate the timeline to get it done). Plenty of kudos for everyone, including the City who helped bridge the gap with a loan to finalize the funding. And und didn’t fundraiser the other half thry took out a loan Quote
jdub27 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 35 minutes ago, gfhockey said: And und didn’t fundraiser the other half thry took out a loan Do you have a breakdown on the actual figures between what was donated (lead donor and other donors), the final amount of the loan from the city and the total cost? Quote
HockeyHawk Posted March 13 Posted March 13 2 hours ago, iramurphy said: From the beginning of the project until the dedication, UND attributed credit to the Albrecht family. I never understood anyone from UND to say otherwise. With the request to move the project ahead so the Albrecht girl would get to play on the new field, it took a lot of work by UND staff to get the project completed on time. I would substitute’a lot of work’ for ‘any athletic with a donor with this level of commitment’ would work out how to do this Quote
HockeyHawk Posted March 13 Posted March 13 26 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Do you have a breakdown on the actual figures between what was donated (lead donor and other donors), the final amount of the loan from the city and the total cost? My understanding is that Albrecht paid for the entire project Chaves gets to prance around and pretend he did something to get this done but in reality if the current head softball coach is to be believed then this was not achieved with significant help from athletic administration. 1 Quote
gfhockey Posted March 13 Posted March 13 30 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Do you have a breakdown on the actual figures between what was donated (lead donor and other donors), the final amount of the loan from the city and the total cost? Said in news paper $2mill loan Quote
gfhockey Posted March 13 Posted March 13 From news article Google is a wonderful tool my friend The Grand Forks Growth Fund this week approved the terms of a $2 million dollar 20-year loan. It would come at an interest rate of two-percent in years 1-10 and four-percent in year eleven and beyond. The funds will complement a $2.5 million dollar contribution being made by an outside donor for the $4.5 million dollar build. 3 Quote
jdub27 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 52 minutes ago, gfhockey said: From news article Google is a wonderful tool my friend The Grand Forks Growth Fund this week approved the terms of a $2 million dollar 20-year loan. It would come at an interest rate of two-percent in years 1-10 and four-percent in year eleven and beyond. The funds will complement a $2.5 million dollar contribution being made by an outside donor for the $4.5 million dollar build. I'm well aware of it and its been mentioned multiple times in here, clearing stating that the entire project was not covered by a single donor. What I don't know is the final breakdown. The loan was approved for up to $2 million. However I never saw the final numbers, if they took the whole amount or if they had raised additional funds outside the lead donor. I am also not positive the entire $2.5MM quoted was just from the lead donor as I had heard it was a lower amount and there were others interested in pledging funds, but it is very possible they upped their donation and were the only sizable private donation. Quote
gfhockey Posted March 13 Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, jdub27 said: I'm well aware of it and its been mentioned multiple times in here, clearing stating that the entire project was not covered by a single donor. What I don't know is the final breakdown. The loan was approved for up to $2 million. However I never saw the final numbers, if they took the whole amount or if they had raised additional funds outside the lead donor. I am also not positive the entire $2.5MM quoted was just from the lead donor as I had heard it was a lower amount and there were others interested in pledging funds, but it is very possible they upped their donation and were the only sizable private donation. Go look at county website to see if city filed a mortgage Quote
iramurphy Posted March 13 Posted March 13 5 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: ... just create infomation on the project details on short notice, reshuffle fundraising priorities of staff, lobby and present to the city, line up contractors on short notice, find materials in a fouled up supply chain, and get in front of other donors ... 50 minutes ago, HockeyHawk said: My understanding is that Albrecht paid for the entire project Chaves gets to prance around and pretend he did something to get this done but in reality if the current head softball coach is to be believed then this was not achieved with significant help from athletic administration. The Albrecht gift made a huge difference and was the impetus to move the timeline of the project ahead. I would be surprised if the softball coach would be so unaware of what a project like this involves to have made such a stupid comment Read Sicatoka’s post. If anyone doesn’t understand how this can involve University Buildings and Grounds, VP for Finance the Alumni staff, and the athletic staff to work with attorneys, bankers, city officials, construction entities to name a few. HockeyHawk Do you think you have any clue as to what this project involved? Your “understanding” of who paid for it is as inaccurate as your understanding of a multimillion dollar building project. The University Community has every right to be proud of this campus including this project. It took a lot of work and coordination from many people involved including the athletic dept staff. Quote
Kab Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Why piss off a big donor? it’s built , looks great, team is doing good be happy 2 Quote
gfhockey Posted March 13 Posted March 13 31 minutes ago, Kab said: Why piss off a big donor? it’s built , looks great, team is doing good be happy Agreed Quote
forksandspoons Posted April 4 Author Posted April 4 Home games this weekend at the brand new field! Quote
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