Coach Sather Poll

[nodak651]

On 1/26/2023 at 3:25 PM, iramurphy said:

I didn’t say I thought the program was going in the right direction. My comment about a buyout was to those who are frustrated someone else isn’t doing it. I’ve never liked the comments from those who have answers as long as someone else pays for it. My comments aren’t to everyone who wants a coaching change but to those who want someone else to pay for a buyout. I have no issues with those whose opinion is to change coaches. Maybe they are correct. I’m not blind. My basketball experiences, and coaching experiences are irrelevant. You may think your basketball experience and expertise far exceeds mine and anyone else who isn’t in full agreement. You may be right.  I’m smart enough to know I haven’t kept up with either sport to think I can coach. Maybe others have. My initial comment was after a post related to a poll that might influence UND “brass”.  I made another comment about the AD’s home phone number. Some of you infer an awful lot from nothing.  Because one disagrees there is no reason to take it as an offense. 

You're ignoring the fact that "other people's money" isn't needed for a buyout that only costs 80k.  

[iramurphy]

1 hour ago, nodak651 said:

You're ignoring the fact that "other people's money" isn't needed for a buyout that only costs 80k.  

His contract runs through April 2024. Salary was around $180 000. Salary plus benefits are likely around $190,000. Dump him now and buyout would be next year plus $45,000 for the remaining 3 months through April 2023. In my experience buying out school administrators, it would be the cost of salary and benefits for the remainder of the contract plus attorney fees and any incentives to get them to move on if you would like to minimize hassles. In this case, with the lack of success of the program, you probably would have to throw in incentives. I’m not sure where you came up with only $80,000. I’ve estimated based on base salary I found listed on one source. I would estimate a buyout at the end of this season to be at least $190,000 which is a conservative estimate of salary and benefits for April 2023-April 2024. I’m guessing.
Show me what I’m missing. So who pays for it? I’m not going to. To be clear, I haven’t suggested those who want Sather gone should pick up the tab. I suggested those who want to buy him out now, have some boosters donate the money or find money in the budget, should pick up the tab. 
I would rather weather the storm and spend the $190,000-$235,000 on better coaches salaries or program upgrades wherever needed. I also would spend from now until the end of his contract searching for viable candidates. 
I’m sure the real “best fans” (or whatever they claim to be) and our BB experts with a better understanding of BB, coaching, contracts, buyouts etc than I have, will be happy to point much better solutions. 

[gfhockey]

Maybe we’ll get lucky and he’ll move on to be assistant at South Dakota state like Jones did

[Goon]

On 1/26/2023 at 10:02 AM, The Sicatoka said:

Ask UM-Duluth about Sandelin.
Ask SDSU about Stig. 

If you believe you have made the right choice in the long run you ride out the short term pain. 

@The Sicatoka I am not sure that's a fair comparison, this basketball team is a dumpster fire with no end in site, and his record something like 37-73 that's an horrendous record. 

[GoodGood]

5 minutes ago, Goon said:

@The Sicatoka I am not sure that's a fair comparison, this basketball team is a dumpster fire with no end in site, and his record something like 37-73 that's an horrendous record. 

Take out the 7 wins against d3 and NAIA teams and its 30-73. 3-25 in conference the last two years. A dumpster fire is putting it kindly at this point

[sioux24/7]

50 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Maybe we’ll get lucky and he’ll move on to be assistant at South Dakota state like Jones did

I think our best bet is Saul Phillips takes another leap and it opens the head coaching position back at Northern. I think they’d take him back. 

[nodak651]

9 hours ago, iramurphy said:

His contract runs through April 2024. Salary was around $180 000. Salary plus benefits are likely around $190,000. Dump him now and buyout would be next year plus $45,000 for the remaining 3 months through April 2023. In my experience buying out school administrators, it would be the cost of salary and benefits for the remainder of the contract plus attorney fees and any incentives to get them to move on if you would like to minimize hassles. In this case, with the lack of success of the program, you probably would have to throw in incentives. I’m not sure where you came up with only $80,000. I’ve estimated based on base salary I found listed on one source. I would estimate a buyout at the end of this season to be at least $190,000 which is a conservative estimate of salary and benefits for April 2023-April 2024. I’m guessing.
Show me what I’m missing. So who pays for it? I’m not going to. To be clear, I haven’t suggested those who want Sather gone should pick up the tab. I suggested those who want to buy him out now, have some boosters donate the money or find money in the budget, should pick up the tab. 
I would rather weather the storm and spend the $190,000-$235,000 on better coaches salaries or program upgrades wherever needed. I also would spend from now until the end of his contract searching for viable candidates. 
I’m sure the real “best fans” (or whatever they claim to be) and our BB experts with a better understanding of BB, coaching, contracts, buyouts etc than I have, will be happy to point much better solutions. 

 

[iramurphy]

6 hours ago, nodak651 said:

 

I stand corrected. I googled but only found salary and I guess I didn’t look thoroughly enough. I still wouldn’t buy out but that’s just me. Thanks for correcting.