The Sicatoka Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Part of the Fleury-Murray flurry was cap space. Something had to give. Quote
cberkas Posted April 19, 2018 Author Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Sabres. Dulled. Senators. Impeached. Coyotes. Neutered. Canadiens. Americanized. Canucks. Deported. Red Wings. Clipped. Blackhawks. Down. Rangers. Homed. Oilers. Canned. Islanders. Set adrift. Hurricanes. Downgraded. Flames. Extinguished. Stars. Fallen. Blues. Sung. Panthers. Declawed. Kings. Deposed. Ducks. Peking'd. Dethroned would have been better then deposed. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, cberkas said: Dethroned would have been better then deposed. Everybody goes with "dethroned". They weren't on the throne this year (other than maybe that porcelain throne ). Quote
Yote 53 Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 22 hours ago, KoolGuy2K said: Not sure if this has been asked before, but why is Vegas so good this year? Typically, in any sport, an expansion team takes several years to be decent. What happened with them? Did they just get lucky that their guys have good chemistry? Along with all the answers already given VGK also gets good matchups because of their roster lineup. Their roster is made up of 2 & 3 line guys that have talent and were just under the top line guys. So when they matchup against another team, while they may not have a top line they also don't have a 4th line. It's four 2nd to 3rd lines matching up against the other teams 1-2-3-4, same goes with their D pairings. They were also able to construct their roster and contracts from scratch knowing how the current salary cap system works. Look at all the teams that are in salary cap hell, or can't ever seem to break out because of a couple of bad contracts on the books. The downside for VGK is they really don't have a lot of minor league depth. It's going to take a while for them to build up a system of young talent. The first couple of seasons they should be solid, it's in a couple of years when their first homegrown talent comes through that will tell us if they have staying power. VGK might be the blueprint for Seattle but if I am a few NHL clubs I might not be too thrilled about those expansion draft rules. I'm thinking of places like Buffalo where they just have to be saying "are you F-ing kidding me?" when they see the success in Vegas while they have struggled for years. 1 Quote
Shawn-O Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 25 minutes ago, Yote 53 said: Along with all the answers already given VGK also gets good matchups because of their roster lineup. Their roster is made up of 2 & 3 line guys that have talent and were just under the top line guys. So when they matchup against another team, while they may not have a top line they also don't have a 4th line. It's four 2nd to 3rd lines matching up against the other teams 1-2-3-4, same goes with their D pairings. They were also able to construct their roster and contracts from scratch knowing how the current salary cap system works. Look at all the teams that are in salary cap hell, or can't ever seem to break out because of a couple of bad contracts on the books. The downside for VGK is they really don't have a lot of minor league depth. It's going to take a while for them to build up a system of young talent. The first couple of seasons they should be solid, it's in a couple of years when their first homegrown talent comes through that will tell us if they have staying power. VGK might be the blueprint for Seattle but if I am a few NHL clubs I might not be too thrilled about those expansion draft rules. I'm thinking of places like Buffalo where they just have to be saying "are you F-ing kidding me?" when they see the success in Vegas while they have struggled for years. Chuck Fletcher would like a word with you. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 42 minutes ago, Yote 53 said: Look at all the teams that are in salary cap hell, Um ... the Ducks are paying Getzlaf, Perry, and Kesler until when? Quote
Ray77 Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 You can't have a bad contract discussion without including Rick DiPietro. In 2006 he signed a 15 year, $67.5M contract with the Islanders that would take him to the end of the 2020-21 season. His last "real" season in the NHL was 2010-11 when he played 26 games. He did play 8 games in 2011-12 and 3 games in 2012-13. In 2013 the Islanders bought him out and are paying him $1.5M per year from 2013 - 2029! It looks to me like this buyout contributes $4.5M/season towards the Islanders cap hit until the 2020-21 season. Quote
cberkas Posted April 19, 2018 Author Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Ray77 said: You can't have a bad contract discussion without including Rick DiPietro. In 2006 he signed a 15 year, $67.5M contract with the Islanders that would take him to the end of the 2020-21 season. His last "real" season in the NHL was 2010-11 when he played 26 games. He did play 8 games in 2011-12 and 3 games in 2012-13. In 2013 the Islanders bought him out and are paying him $1.5M per year from 2013 - 2029! It looks to me like this buyout contributes $4.5M/season towards the Islanders cap hit until the 2020-21 season. You have to blame the worst NHL GM for that deal and all of the Islanders problems, Garth Snow. Quote
cberkas Posted April 19, 2018 Author Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Shawn-O said: Chuck Fletcher would like a word with you. He gave way to much money to Parise and Suter, who will most likely retire before their contracts are up. 1 Quote
cberkas Posted April 19, 2018 Author Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Yote 53 said: Along with all the answers already given VGK also gets good matchups because of their roster lineup. Their roster is made up of 2 & 3 line guys that have talent and were just under the top line guys. So when they matchup against another team, while they may not have a top line they also don't have a 4th line. It's four 2nd to 3rd lines matching up against the other teams 1-2-3-4, same goes with their D pairings. They were also able to construct their roster and contracts from scratch knowing how the current salary cap system works. Look at all the teams that are in salary cap hell, or can't ever seem to break out because of a couple of bad contracts on the books. The downside for VGK is they really don't have a lot of minor league depth. It's going to take a while for them to build up a system of young talent. The first couple of seasons they should be solid, it's in a couple of years when their first homegrown talent comes through that will tell us if they have staying power. VGK might be the blueprint for Seattle but if I am a few NHL clubs I might not be too thrilled about those expansion draft rules. I'm thinking of places like Buffalo where they just have to be saying "are you F-ing kidding me?" when they see the success in Vegas while they have struggled for years. Vegas does have two bad contracts that should be off the books by 2021-22 (one is 2018-19 the other 2020-21). Quote
The Sicatoka Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, cberkas said: Vegas does have two bad contracts that should be off the books by 2021-22 (one is 2018-19 the other 2020-21). https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/goldenknights Brassard and Tatar? I'd be more worried about the length of the Reilly Smith deal. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Just poking around CapFriendly ... Edmonton is paying how much for how long for that defensive group? Ouch. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/oilers Quote
cberkas Posted April 19, 2018 Author Posted April 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/goldenknights Brassard and Tatar? I'd be more worried about the length of the Reilly Smith deal. Clarkson and Grabovski both are on IR an wont play. Bassard was part of a trade deal. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, cberkas said: Clarkson and Grabovski both are on IR an wont play. Grabovski is off the books once the VGK season ends. There's $5M they'll need for Wild Bill. Quote
Ray77 Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 23 minutes ago, cberkas said: Clarkson and Grabovski both are on IR an wont play. Bassard was part of a trade deal. I think those were both contracts they took on as part of other deals during the expansion draft, no? Quote
cberkas Posted April 19, 2018 Author Posted April 19, 2018 22 minutes ago, Ray77 said: I think those were both contracts they took on as part of other deals during the expansion draft, no? Yes they were. Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 10 hours ago, Ray77 said: You can't have a bad contract discussion without including Rick DiPietro. In 2006 he signed a 15 year, $67.5M contract with the Islanders that would take him to the end of the 2020-21 season. His last "real" season in the NHL was 2010-11 when he played 26 games. He did play 8 games in 2011-12 and 3 games in 2012-13. In 2013 the Islanders bought him out and are paying him $1.5M per year from 2013 - 2029! It looks to me like this buyout contributes $4.5M/season towards the Islanders cap hit until the 2020-21 season. That's gotta hurt below the belt? In back right pocket. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 Well, like they say, it ain't braggin' if you can do it. Quote When the Capitals found themselves in a hole after losing the first two games of their first-round Stanley Cup playoff series at home, Ovechkin matter-of-factly said the team would return to Washington for a Game 5 with the series tied. He repeated himself Tuesday morning before the team won Game 3 against the Columbus Blue Jackets in double overtime. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/04/19/2018-nhl-playoffs-capitals-blue-jackets-game-4-analysis-and-updates/?utm_term=.900a9e85c231#story They're going back to DC tied. Quote
MafiaMan Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 21 hours ago, cberkas said: He gave way to much money to Parise and Suter, who will most likely retire before their contracts are up. I was told it was a bargain because they were both paid less than $100 million. Quote
1972 Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Dubs being pulled after letting in 4 off of 10 shots. Should have been pulled after the second Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 the Jets are playing like they are the ones in the 3-1 hole. Dubs getting yanked after 12 minutes Quote
1972 Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Poolman rocked foligno. Tucker is playing well tonight Quote
1972 Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Crosby with a gawd-aweful flop....looked like nba. 3 Quote
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