Help!!! Real or Fake??

[FGHTNSX Hawkey14]

  On 10/23/2017 at 4:31 AM, coltssiouixfan said:

You think the Sioux shop will do it 

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I'm guessing that siouxshop will only be prepared to customize jerseys they have in stock, but you could ask.

[Walsh Hall]

I doubt the SS will customize any counterfeit jerseys.

[FGHTNSX Hawkey14]

  On 10/23/2017 at 1:04 PM, Walsh Hall said:

I doubt the SS will customize any counterfeit jerseys.

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1. The jerseys in question are high quality replicas, not counterfeit

2. Siouxshop will not deny business, if it will make them money

[FGHTNSX Hawkey14]

  On 10/23/2017 at 1:10 PM, FGHTNSX Hawkey14 said:

1. The jerseys in question are high quality replicas, not counterfeit

2. Siouxshop will not deny business, if it will make them money

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But it is unlikely they will customize for you, of you want it to be historically accurate.

[sprig]

  On 10/22/2017 at 5:48 PM, coltssiouixfan said:

Is the green a better find even if they’re is no Sammy Sioux patch? 

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Get both. There was not a Sammy on the 63 jersey 

[Walsh Hall]

If it isn't authorized by UND it's a counterfeit.  They look nice, but unless it's authorized by the University, and the University is getting their cut, it's a counterfeit.

There's a ton of cool looking homemade Sioux stuff that is 100% counterfeit as it was not authorized by UND.   Just private folks making a few bucks.

[coltssiouxfan]

  On 10/23/2017 at 7:38 AM, Frozen4sioux said:

AZ jerseys are very nice. Ive bought from him. I recommend.

As far as customization,  where are you located?

I have many many of these and have done all the customization myself.

I use tackle twill and accurate number fonts and sizes.

 

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I’m in Grand Forms currently 

[coltssiouxfan]

  On 10/23/2017 at 11:40 AM, MafiaMan said:

Hey, you sounds like a big fan, @coltssiouixfan but I have a question for you:

why do you have "sioux" spelled wrong in your screen name?  

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You know I just noticed that myself. 

[FGHTNSX Hawkey14]

  On 10/23/2017 at 1:19 PM, Walsh Hall said:

If it isn't authorized by UND it's a counterfeit.  They look nice, but unless it's authorized by the University, and the University is getting their cut, it's a counterfeit.

There's a ton of cool looking homemade Sioux stuff that is 100% counterfeit as it was not authorized by UND.   Just private folks making a few bucks.

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All good points, but...

coun·ter·feit

ˈkoun(t)ərˌfit/

adjective

1. 1.

   made in exact imitation of something valuable or important with the intention to deceive or defraud. 

    

   IIRC this jersey is listed as a replica, not as authentic, or licensed, and when you say "counterfeit jerseys", that brings up images of Ohsie jerseys with a backwards 7, and Sioux logo with an enormous chin, and no pupil, and made in Southeast Asia.

[FGHTNSX Hawkey14]

  On 10/23/2017 at 1:34 PM, coltssiouixfan said:

You know I just noticed that myself. 

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Can you change it, coltsooweefan?

[Walsh Hall]

Try opening a "Replica"  branded McDonald's next to a real one, and see how that goes.  It's stealing from McDonalds.  Saying something is "retro" or "replica" doesn't give the right to use the McDonalds name or logo.  Apparently for many it isn't whether an item is counterfeit or not, it's the quality of the counterfeit.  Seems like a weird distinction to make. 

[NoiseInsideMyHead]

  On 10/23/2017 at 1:33 PM, coltssiouixfan said:

I’m in Grand Forms currently 

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Daydreams Specialties does tackle twill numbers on jerseys.

[coltssiouxfan]

I got it fixed!

[MafiaMan]

  On 10/23/2017 at 1:19 PM, Walsh Hall said:

If it isn't authorized by UND it's a counterfeit.  They look nice, but unless it's authorized by the University, and the University is getting their cut, it's a counterfeit.

There's a ton of cool looking homemade Sioux stuff that is 100% counterfeit as it was not authorized by UND.   Just private folks making a few bucks.

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  On 10/23/2017 at 1:54 PM, Walsh Hall said:

Try opening a "Replica"  branded McDonald's next to a real one, and see how that goes.  It's stealing from McDonalds.  Saying something is "retro" or "replica" doesn't give the right to use the McDonalds name or logo.  Apparently for many it isn't whether an item is counterfeit or not, it's the quality of the counterfeit.  Seems like a weird distinction to make. 

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UND doesn't have exclusive rights on the words "Sioux" and the colors green and white any more than Michigan owns anything maize and blue with the word "Michigan" on it. 

I'm not sure on the Sammy Sioux logo but don't believe that UND has a registered trademark on it.  Correct me if I am wrong.  

[FGHTNSX Hawkey14]

  On 10/23/2017 at 1:54 PM, Walsh Hall said:

Try opening a "Replica"  branded McDonald's next to a real one, and see how that goes.  It's stealing from McDonalds.  Saying something is "retro" or "replica" doesn't give the right to use the McDonalds name or logo.  Apparently for many it isn't whether an item is counterfeit or not, it's the quality of the counterfeit.  Seems like a weird distinction to make. 

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Again, I see what You're saying about the lack of authenticity, however, calling it a counterfeit, by definition, is incorrect. Secondly, while this may technically violate UND's copyright (I doubt it though), it is not taking money away from the program, because Sioux jerseys are not available at Siouxshop, and most people who would consider buying it would not buy a current jersey, or already have one. People won't choose to buy this jersey instead of an authentic one. The difference between the countless counterfeits and this jersey is that the Chinese jerseys are a) low quality b) actually infringe copyright c) mass produced for profit and d) take away potential revenue dollars from UND. This jersey does not.

 

[sprig]

  On 10/23/2017 at 2:21 PM, NoiseInsideMyHead said:

Daydreams Specialties does tackle twill numbers on jerseys.

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Good tip. Took a jersey there today. reasonably priced as well

[coltssiouxfan]

What do you think of this one? The guy says he bought it at the sioux shop but I want to make sure. 

[runaroundsioux]

Real deal. It's a premier not an authentic. Sold for $89.00 back then.

[R_Schneider_4]

  On 12/7/2017 at 5:37 AM, runaroundsioux said:

Real deal. It's a premier not an authentic. Sold for $89.00 back then.

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I don't recall the premiers having the non detailed Sioux logo on the reebok jerseys. I know they did for the nike jerseys.

[coltssiouxfan]

So the jersey is real what do you think is a fair price?

[UNDSioux23]

  On 12/7/2017 at 7:32 PM, coltssiouxfan said:

So the jersey is real what do you think is a fair price?

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If you can get this for 150 or less you'd be fine

[MafiaMan]

  On 12/7/2017 at 5:40 AM, R_Schneider_4 said:

I don't recall the premiers having the non detailed Sioux logo on the reebok jerseys. I know they did for the nike jerseys.

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Agreed.  Sioux head looks funny.

[KS SIOUX]

  On 12/9/2017 at 2:23 AM, MafiaMan said:

Agreed.  Sioux head looks funny.

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I don’t see a trademark (TM) anywhere on that beautiful Sioux Head as well - generally a tell tale sign 

[bigskyvikes]

  On 12/9/2017 at 2:23 AM, MafiaMan said:

Agreed.  Sioux head looks funny.

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Too much back ground behind the front of his face.

[NoiseInsideMyHead]

  On 12/9/2017 at 3:07 AM, bigskyvikes said:

Too much back ground behind the front of his face.

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This one is a noble effort but seems confused...UND is (was) the Fighting Sioux.  REA is (was) the "Home of the Fighting Sioux."  Probably an at-home knock-off.