fightingsioux4life Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Can some of our posters wait until Monday without having a heart attack first? Tom Miller @tommillergf My guess to name UND FB coach will be Monday presser. Until then, Faison's going to wanna know which candidate will better #ChuckThePigskin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND92,96 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 SiouxFootballInsider @SiouxFootball We will have our "Final 2" thoughts tomorrow but for our money it's Schweigert's job. Once he gets on campus it will be over. Many reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Can some of our posters wait until Monday without having a heart attack first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericpnelson Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 i'm heading to grand forks saturday, I imagine Brian would want the guy hired by then so I can congratulate at Judy's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mksioux Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 You thought 9 head coach interviews was a lot to sort through? With the generic requirements for the assistant coach position, to get some of the guys you want to hire, can you imagine how many applicants you would have to go through if it was open for over a month due to the point system they have to work through? The position closes on 12/30. Well under 2 weeks from when the new coach will be hired. Do I think it could have been posted a week sooner? Definitely. No clue why they waited to pull down the head coaching one before the assistant coaching one was put up. I think a fair question to ask is why does the Assistant Coach position only need to be posted for 10 days rather than 15? Different categorization within the University? Hmmm, not sure why this one has less of a posting requirement than the head coaching job. They really ought to put the hiring policies online. I thought North Dakota was all about transparency. I think you're overestimating how many coaches would apply for an assistant coaching position at a school that has not yet named a head coach. But even if there were a lot, it would still take less time for HR to comb through them and assign them points than waiting out an additional two weeks it would take under the posting requirements. At least if there is even an ounce of urgency to getting the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Monday December 23rd.....2 days before Christmas and one day before Christmas Eve, when the campus and GF are in a coma. I wonder if there will even be any media around for the presser or if they have already made their Christmas travel plans? Can't say I would blame them. Just a PR fail from start to finish. You have to be able to play the PR game. The propaganda machine to the south seems to understand this. Hard to argue with the results. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 You thought 9 head coach interviews was a lot to sort through? With the generic requirements for the assistant coach position, to get some of the guys you want to hire, can you imagine how many applicants you would have to go through if it was open for over a month due to the point system they have to work through? The position closes on 12/30. Well under 2 weeks from when the new coach will be hired. Do I think it could have been posted a week sooner? Definitely. No clue why they waited to pull down the head coaching one before the assistant coaching one was put up. I think a fair question to ask is why does the Assistant Coach position only need to be posted for 10 days rather than 15? Different categorization within the University? A head coach "interviews" who he wants for the positions. It's different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND92,96 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I can't help but wonder if Lennon's watching this process unfold, heading into a contract year and presumably under a fair amount of pressure, and asking himself whether he's making a mistake not pursuing the UND job for himself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 You have to be able to play the PR game. The propaganda machine to the south seems to understand this. Hard to argue with the results. Well I believe they studied under this guy. But seriously though, I'm not sure Grand Forks is ever as empty at any other time of the year as it is during Christmas break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericpnelson Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Well I believe they studied under this guy. But seriously though, I'm not sure Grand Forks is ever as empty at any other time of the year as it is during Christmas break. Wow... Well, there's that. I guess the intensity of this thread needed to be upped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 This program played in 2 DII title games a little over a decade ago...winning one, it's program history is rich, the facilities are good and are going to get better and this program needed a HC and yet it seamed like the postition was obviously not a desired destination by many...unless you were one that saw the inevitable train wreck at SIU. Has this program fallen that far in 11-13 years? Outside of Pflu, who I thought was the best candidate with head coaching experience, there wasn't really anyone that applied that gave me the "Wow' factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Wow... Well, there's that. I guess the intensity of this thread needed to be upped. Yeah I'm just frustrated with UND right now so I decided to take a shot at Moo U to release some of that. They commonly refer to us as Nazis so I don't feel much guilt over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Monday December 23rd.....2 days before Christmas when the campus and GF are in a coma. I wonder if there will even be any media around for the presser or if they have already made their Christmas travel plans? Can't say I would blame them. Just a PR fail from start to finish. You have to be able to play the PR game. The propaganda machine to the south seems to understand this. Hard to argue with the results. We still have #brickbybrick to fall back on............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxjoy Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I'm not sure why I am posting, since no one seems to believe what I have to say anyway. But, if a position posted externally closes at 5pm, the soonest the HR department would have access to the applications to screen them would be the next day. Say there is ONE application, and it meets the criteria. Now, also assume that the HR department doesn't have anything else going on but reading the applications related to the position of football head coach. So, right away at 8am they screen the one application and forward that information to the athletic department. The athletic department would then make the decision to hire that person (or not) and return the documentation to the HR department. Assuming this is all done personally (someone walks the information from Twamley to Hyslop and then back again to Twamley), that could MAYBE be done in a business day. Now, there also needs to be a determination that no discrimination occurred in the process and that the background check is cleared. This can add a day (possibly two, depending on the company used for the background check). Once all of that is complete, then the athletics office can offer the position to someone. So, I suppose it would be possible to announce a hire on December 12 or 13, but the scenario I listed above obviously didn't happen. I honestly don't know why the assistant coach position could be posted for less days...maybe it is due to the banding that the position falls under. I really expected the coach named (or at least one of the finalists) would be someone not initially thrown around on this board. I would be curious to see the names of the other seven that made the screening... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 One more last question, then I'm done with my stupid questions. (yeah I know, there's only stupid people right? ) Why isnt a finalist on campus today, tomorrow and/or Friday. Can't find a flight or what? I thought we had an aviation school or something like that? You could have a presser on Friday like many on here had hoped and speculated about. Plus the other candidate who doesnt get hired can get on with his life and still be back at his other job hosting recruits over the weekend for Lennon at SIU. Which is worse? A Friday December 20th presser, or a Monday December 23rd presser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Why isnt a finalist on campus today, tomorrow and/or Friday. Can't find a flight or what? I thought we had an aviation school or something like that? Which is worse? A Friday December 20th presser, or a Monday December 23rd presser? That made my laugh...well played! To your very last question(s)...I see where you are going but IMO they both suck but at least BF probably figured next Tuesday or Wednesday were not options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Why isnt a finalist on campus today, .., Which is worse? A Friday December 20th presser, or a Monday December 23rd presser? Rhetorical question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Rhetorical question? Bingo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 One more last question, then I'm done with my stupid questions. (yeah I know, there's only stupid people right? ) Why isnt a finalist on campus today, tomorrow and/or Friday. Can't find a flight or what? I thought we had an aviation school or something like that? You could have a presser on Friday like many on here had hoped and speculated about. Plus the other candidate who doesnt get hired can get on with his life and still be back at his other job hosting recruits over the weekend for Lennon at SIU. Which is worse? A Friday December 20th presser, or a Monday December 23rd presser? Well, for what it's worth, the press conference announcing Ralph Engelstad's $100 million gift was on the Friday of finals week in December 1998. I also recall a snowstorm that afternoon and evening. So if it's good enough for that, it's good enough for this. I really hope it's Friday and not Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Well I'm getting all depressed, so I decided to go look at some videos that lift my spirits. I'll share for your enjoyment. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnRfpcc3LZA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilwpXOQIjHc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UNDBIZ Posted December 18, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KHaKOjX_Hs 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 This play cemented Jimmy's NFL Draft status. That simply is not supposed to happen at any level of FB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkCNJRfSZBU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mksioux Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I'm not sure why I am posting, since no one seems to believe what I have to say anyway. It's not that we don't believe you, it's that we can't believe the process. You've actually be quite helpful in trying to explain this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 It's not that we don't believe you, it's that we can't believe the process. You've actually be quite helpful in trying to explain this. 100% agree with this. Thanks for the info, siouxjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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