Shawn-O Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I think we should incorporate our past The Nevada atomics Or The vegas mobsters Las Vegas Hit Men These are all better than what UND will end up with. Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas_Sioux Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Las Vegas Fighting Sioux? That works too don't know if the Paiute would like it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas_Sioux Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 How about the dam hockey team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 The "Vegas Vacation"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Nate Silver on a NHL team in Las Vegas. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nate-silver-trashes-nhl-las-vegas-plan--puts-over-canadian-expansion-154308407.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Nate Silver on a NHL team in Las Vegas. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nate-silver-trashes-nhl-las-vegas-plan--puts-over-canadian-expansion-154308407.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw Commissioner for a day: Florida -> Quebec City Phoenix -> Seattle Columbus -> Hamilton Nashville -> Milwaukee Get to Canada or get north, ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Nashville -> Milwaukee Disagree. I've been to a Preds game in Bridgestone Arena (on a random Saturday afternoon in February not that long ago). They do fine; I think they do better than Milwaukee would (based on recent UW attendance). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Disagree. I've been to a Preds game in Bridgestone Arena (on a random Saturday afternoon in February not that long ago). They do fine; I think they do better than Milwaukee would (based on recent UW attendance). Agree. I've been to a number of games there in the past. Their fanbase seems to be a mix of natives with no clue about hockey, and transplants who know more about the game. However, they tend to be vocal and pretty loyal. And downtown Nashville can be a lot of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Sold. Nashville keeps the Preds. Seattle arena situation is too uncertain. Realistically: Florida->Quebec City Phoenix->Las Vegas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 The Las Vegas Black Knights will be announced soon, for fall of 2016, as they have deposits on a requisite number of tickets. Seattle is still possible, as an environmental impact study will be done soon, and Seattle might revise the terms to allow an NHL in first. The arena will be several years down the road, so Seattle's admission will be delayed. If Glendale still has issues down the road, Paul Allen is rumored to relocate that team to Portland. The NHL wants 16 team conferences before adding to the east. Detroit and Columbus won't move to the western conference. When the league is at 32 teams, Quebec City and Toronto get expansion teams. The Toronto team will be placed in the western conference. Houston is a city that can easily support an NHL team with all kinds of Yankees there, but the owners of the Toyota Center don't want a team there. Nashville is a model franchise in the Sun Belt. They are not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 And downtown Nashville can be a lot of fun. Ya-think? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 The Las Vegas Black Knights will be announced soon, for fall of 2016, as they have deposits on a requisite number of tickets. Seattle is still possible, as an environmental impact study will be done soon, and Seattle might revise the terms to allow an NHL in first. The arena will be several years down the road, so Seattle's admission will be delayed. If Glendale still has issues down the road, Paul Allen is rumored to relocate that team to Portland. The NHL wants 16 team conferences before adding to the east. Detroit and Columbus won't move to the western conference. When the league is at 32 teams, Quebec City and Toronto get expansion teams. The Toronto team will be placed in the western conference. Houston is a city that can easily support an NHL team with all kinds of Yankees there, but the owners of the Toyota Center don't want a team there. Nashville is a model franchise in the Sun Belt. They are not going anywhere. I saw 2017 is the earliest the NHL would be in Las Vegas. Paul Allen has no ownership of the Coyotes, I haven't heard anything about the current owner selling the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I saw 2017 is the earliest the NHL would be in Las Vegas. Paul Allen has no ownership of the Coyotes, I haven't heard anything about the current owner selling the team.Paul Allen doesn't have ownership in the Coyotes, but he supposedly has interest in the team and moving them to Portland. The NW would have three teams then. The new Las Vegas arena on the strip almost certainly will be done by 2017. 2016 might not be feasible. Owners in the western conference see $ signs and want Las Vegas, as it will give up most Friday and Saturday home dates, as most of its home schedule will be Sunday-Wednesday nights when strip workers have off days. Casinos want these dates too because it would mean more business from out of town when thing are slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 The Las Vegas Black Knights will be announced soon, for fall of 2016, as they have deposits on a requisite number of tickets. Seattle is still possible, as an environmental impact study will be done soon, and Seattle might revise the terms to allow an NHL in first. The arena will be several years down the road, so Seattle's admission will be delayed. If Glendale still has issues down the road, Paul Allen is rumored to relocate that team to Portland. The NHL wants 16 team conferences before adding to the east. Detroit and Columbus won't move to the western conference. When the league is at 32 teams, Quebec City and Toronto get expansion teams. The Toronto team will be placed in the western conference.Houston is a city that can easily support an NHL team with all kinds of Yankees there, but the owners of the Toyota Center don't want a team there. Nashville is a model franchise in the Sun Belt. They are not going anywhere. It hasn't played out that way in Phoenix and Miami. I don't see the league going there. Now only if Carolina wasn't locked into their arena until 2024... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 It hasn't played out that way in Phoenix and Miami. I don't see the league going there. Now only if Carolina wasn't locked into their arena until 2024... The Aero's, I guess, did very well in attendance in the AHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 It hasn't played out that way in Phoenix and Miami. I don't see the league going there. Now only if Carolina wasn't locked into their arena until 2024...Glendale is just too far from Phoenix and the East Valley to drive out there 40 times a year. The NFL Cards work because its only 8+ games a year. Glendale is a problem, not Phoenix. Miami is worse than LA for society seekers that want to be seen. The Heat worked there when they had LeBron, but come a few losing seasons they will struggle at the gate like the Dolphins, Marlins, and Panthers. The Panthers need to sign a big celebrity to make it cool. Rocco probably won't do. Raleigh and the Research Triangle are growing like a weed. The franchise is putting down roots with the younger crowd, which can't afford season tickets yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle_Rico Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Agree. I've been to a number of games there in the past. Their fanbase seems to be a mix of natives with no clue about hockey, and transplants who know more about the game. However, they tend to be vocal and pretty loyal. And downtown Nashville can be a lot of fun. I was also at a Predators game two months ago and was surprised by the fan base. Not sure what it's like during a down year. Did run into at least three Sioux fans! However, I've been to 13 NHL arenas and have always run into at least one Sioux fan so I wasn't totally surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEH Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Glendale is just too far from Phoenix and the East Valley to drive out there 40 times a year. The NFL Cards work because its only 8+ games a year. Glendale is a problem, not Phoenix. Miami is worse than LA for society seekers that want to be seen. The Heat worked there when they had LeBron, but come a few losing seasons they will struggle at the gate like the Dolphins, Marlins, and Panthers. The Panthers need to sign a big celebrity to make it cool. Rocco probably won't do. Raleigh and the Research Triangle are growing like a weed. The franchise is putting down roots with the younger crowd, which can't afford season tickets yet. Exactly the East Valley suburbs alone have 1.2 million people the West Valley suburbs have 687,000 with the city of Phoenix splitting the valley. They should have built that arena where they bulit the new Salt River Fields near the 202/101 interchange in South Scottsdale. During rush hour traffic it takes 1 hour to go from Mesa (largest suburb) to Glendale, add a 30 minute drive back after the game it gets to be a pretty long day. Plus AZ's strict DUI laws it just isn't worth it. Glendale sold there soul to sports and are paying for it today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Exactly the East Valley suburbs alone have 1.2 million people the West Valley suburbs have 687,000 with the city of Phoenix splitting the valley. They should have built that arena where they bulit the new Salt River Fields near the 202/101 interchange in South Scottsdale. During rush hour traffic it takes 1 hour to go from Mesa (largest suburb) to Glendale, add a 30 minute drive back after the game it gets to be a pretty long day. Plus AZ's strict DUI laws it just isn't worth it. Glendale sold there soul to sports and are paying for it today. Exactly. The Atlanta Thrashers would have worked with an arena in Cobb or Gwinnett Counties. Many Atlanta suburbanites refuse to go downtown at night because of traffic and crime. That's why when Cobb County offered to build the Braves a new stadium, the Braves couldn't say yes quick enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 I have got to think that the Panthers ownership can't sustain their financial losses much longer. If the Winnipeg Jets can come back, why not the Hartford Whalers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I have got to think that the Panthers ownership can't sustain their financial losses much longer. If the Winnipeg Jets can come back, why not the Hartford Whalers?Quebec City has an NHL caliber new rink sitting empty. Hartford is putting a $250 mill remodel on its XL Center, but its over three years, so it doesnt interfere with UConn MBB, wbb, or hockey. Even after the remodel is finished, its not what the NHL wants in a rink. But its possible if an owner wants to move. Winnipeg and Quebec City only lost their teams because the Canadian dollar was less than 70 cents, so small market Canadian NHL teams lost a fortune. Those days could happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronmanderson3 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Glendale is just too far from Phoenix and the East Valley to drive out there 40 times a year. The NFL Cards work because its only 8+ games a year. Glendale is a problem, not Phoenix. Miami is worse than LA for society seekers that want to be seen. The Heat worked there when they had LeBron, but come a few losing seasons they will struggle at the gate like the Dolphins, Marlins, and Panthers. The Panthers need to sign a big celebrity to make it cool. Rocco probably won't do. Raleigh and the Research Triangle are growing like a weed. The franchise is putting down roots with the younger crowd, which can't afford season tickets yet. Maybe that's the reason they signed Jagr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The Aero's, I guess, did very well in attendance in the AHL. Think Austin could support a team too, if they had an NHL quality rink. Austin wants a pro team too, like Columbus, Raleigh, Oklahoma City (NBA), but its closeness to San Antonio closes the doors on the NBA. When the UTexas builds a new arena, it should partner with a prospective NHL owner. Austin is like San Jose in the tech world. San Jose works in the NHL, and both cities have an enormous amount of corporate tech money floating around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Maybe that's the reason they signed Jagr? Their looking for a David Beckham on skates, with his posh wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Think Austin could support a team too, if they had an NHL quality rink. Austin wants a pro team too, like Columbus, Raleigh, Oklahoma City (NBA), but its closeness to San Antonio closes the doors on the NBA. When the UTexas builds a new arena, it should partner with a prospective NHL owner. Austin is like San Jose in the tech world. San Jose works in the NHL, and both cities have an enormous amount of corporate tech money floating around. Wouldn't you worry about proximity to Dallas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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