darell1976 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Your words, not mine. Since I incorrectly assumed you had "met" several or perhaps many hockey coaches, I thought you had some unique perspective that others do not. Ignore him he's a Bison fan thinking he knows something about hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingranch Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 actually i have met and played under numerous coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingranch Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 sorry darryls played hockey for sixteen years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 actually i have met and played under numerous coaches. So not winning a National Titile but at least getting the team in position to play for it is wasting talent?? I guess your coaches didn't teach you anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingranch Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 guess not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 actually i have met and played under numerous coaches. T-ball and powderpuff football don't really count ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I like seeing UND in the Frozen Four or at least in the NCAA Torunament. We could be like Michigan Tech and be at the bottom of the WCHA every year and just dream about showing up at the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingranch Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 nothing wrong with tball i was scared of the pitchers after t ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingranch Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 you guys act like i am bashing the messiah, i started going to sioux games in 1982, i liked gino and blais, great coaches, have met them both, seemed like they could get more production out of less talented players. 87 team had talent level similar to last years team, gino got it done hak didnt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Examples of Hak being outcoahced by Red: http://www.uscho.com/box/mens-hockey/2006/03/24/michigan-vs-north-dakota/ http://www.uscho.com/box/mens-hockey/2007/03/24/north-dakota-vs-michigan/ But Red must be a genius because during the Frozen Four against UND, he told his goalie not to let any pucks in and that's what happened. I'll bet Red also told his team to outscore the Sioux to guarantee the win. The man's IQ must be through the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 you guys act like i am bashing the messiah, i started going to sioux games in 1982, i liked gino and blais, great coaches, have met them both, seemed like they could get more production out of less talented players. 87 team had talent level similar to last years team, gino got it done hak didnt. Gino also lost a National Title game too as did Blais. There are lots of variables when you play a game like if you run into a hot goaltender its pretty hard to score. But as a fan as you say you are I am sure you are aware of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 im not a coach, dont claim to be, dont want to be, just a hockey fan with an opinion on wasted talent from a fan point of view. so stfu Nice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 actually i have met and played under numerous coaches. Tell me what program wouldn't be proud of a 7 year history that included: 2 regular season championships 3 playoff championships 5 Frozen Fours If Dave Hakstol coached at St Cloud, they'd be building a statue of him in front of the St Cloud National Concrete Center. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Tell me what program wouldn't be proud of a 7 year history that included: 2 regular season championships 3 playoff championships 5 Frozen Fours If Dave Hakstol coached at St Cloud, they'd be building a statue of him in front of the St Cloud National Concrete Center. The University of kingranch. He would demand nothing less than 7 National Titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 you guys act like i am bashing the messiah, i started going to sioux games in 1982, i liked gino and blais, great coaches, have met them both, seemed like they could get more production out of less talented players. 87 team had talent level similar to last years team, gino got it done hak didnt. And the 1998 and 1999 teams had talent level similar to last year's team as well...are you criticizing Blais for not 'getting it done'? What's your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingranch Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 my point is i like blais and gino better than hak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchmaker49 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 my point is i like blais and gino better than hak And I like Blais better than Gino but still like Gino better than Hak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingranch Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 the university of kingranch has a nice ring to it, can i use it darryls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I like seeing UND in the Frozen Four or at least in the NCAA Torunament. We could be like Michigan Tech and be at the bottom of the WCHA every year and just dream about showing up at the playoffs. Dude, don't give them any bb material for this weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 the university of kingranch has a nice ring to it, can i use it darryls? You just have to find your own nickname. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingranch Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 longhorned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 my point is i like blais and gino better than hak Time heals all wounds...I remember people screaming for Gino's head during the decline of the program from about 1990-1995 and the complaints about Dean when the 1998 and 1999 teams fell short of expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchmaker49 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Time heals all wounds...I remember people screaming for Gino's head during the decline of the program from about 1990-1995 and the complaints about Dean when the 1998 and 1999 teams fell short of expectations. Gino was more of a product of good assistants than his talent as a coach. When Dean left the first time the program went downhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Gino was more of a product of good assistants than his talent as a coach. When Dean left the first time the program went downhill. I still think Gino was a good coach, much like I still think Jeff Sauer and Doug Woog were good coaches. I concur that after Dean left in 1989, the Sioux program steadily declined. That 1988-89 freshman class had a lot of unfilled potential. Throw in Brent Bobyck, Dixon Ward, and others, I am still stunned at the lack of tournament success for that bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 And what schools would this be? Sandelin was hired with no college head coaching experiance. Assistant coaches are hired as head coaches every year. And every school will have different priorities when hiring a coach. But most schools would hire someone that has proven success as a head coach on that level as their first choice. Proven assistants with experience at that school would also be highly prized, especially at schools that like to promote from within and at a lot of successful programs. The next level of choice would be proven assistants at succesful programs. And successful head coaches at a lower level would get some consideration. UND has proven that they like to hire from within. Gino was not the first choice for that position, but he ended up getting it doing well. Blais was well thought of when he was at UND originally, but he went to the high school level so that he could get head coaching experience. That and his relationships at UND helped him get the job. And Hak was part of the program for a long time, that definitely helped him get the job. Sandelin was part of a successful program at UND. That definitely helped him when he was being interviewed for the Duluth position. Obviously you don't like Hakstol. In this discussion, Hak has had a successful run as a head coach at the collegiate level. He has done everything but win a national championship, and has regularly had his teams in the tournament. Most schools with head coach openings would be interested in talking to him about their job. Some NHL teams might consider talking to him about a head coaching job, and many would probably be interested in talking to him about an assistant job if he was interested in that. Guentzel has had a good run as an assistant, but not as a head coach at the collegiate level. He has had experience as a head coach at the USHL level, but hasn't been able to get hired at the college level. He could get a shot at a head coaching job, and very well might at UNO when Blais leaves, but most schools would probably rank Hakstol higher before talking to them. Interviews may change that based on how the personalities and goals fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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