Siouxphan27

Why are you so defensive about it? Plenty of time has passed for the smoke to clear as you say, but we are still left with two completely contradictory statements by the family and su. While you may think Brock just got a bad batch of Folgers crystals, others think that excuse just doesn’t add up. As more time goes on and no effort is made to clear up the confusion, the situation just looks more and more fishy to the neutral observer. Don't worry- the game will still be played this fall as long as ndsu doesn’t get the death penalty from the NCAA.

Moser, is that you?

No, there’s isn’t Milo. There is 27 claimed of EXPENSES. That’s what I responded to. If you wanted to talk revenues, perhaps you should’ve quoted the revenues figure. I agree- it is very difficult to figure out what you are talking about, when you don’t know what you are talking about.

Good point. But since no more info is coming out, it appears that type of goof up at ndsu results in a coaching promotion.

Well of course we do Dan. Goat herding is a lot less expensive than medicine, law, and aerospace.

I’m not sure how UND expensed the White House visit. How nice for ndsu to finally be invited as well, I hope they enjoy it. Why don’t you produce the same numbers for ndsu so they can be compared. Also, you do realize revenues are part of the equation, right? Right???

Sounds like someone possibly couldn’t Add’erall up properly.

3rd option: All ndsu staff are untrustworthy and in on the illegal stimulant cheating scandal?

It’s amazing how many new posters with IP addresses in moms’ basements all over Fargo have shown up on Siouxsports since the illegal stimulant story at ndsu was finally reported on by the Fargo media. .

You are so incompetent when it comes to expenses and revenues, and have so little knowledge concerning number of sports at each school and NCAA FBS requirements, that quite honestly, you’re not worth the amount of time it would take for someone here to explain it all to you.

Given your math skills, i’m guessing you’re the caffeine accountant for ndsu football.

I’ll agree to that. Nice to hear you are admitting the last 8 years were due to cheating. Here’s to hoping both programs have many “clean victories” and future success.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/domi/genrel/auto_pdf/ncaa-banned-substance-list.pdf Will this suffice? I do not see any other substances that are REGULATED, which was my point going back to my post that you responded to to begin with. Brock and family wouldn't bother to say oh by the way it was the common stimulant caffeine, and his test came back outside the acceptable limits per ncaa regulations? I feel kinda bad....you try so hard to pretend you are a UND fan and then something like this happens... I'll give you a thumbs up just for trying.

I finally looked back to see where the source of my question came from. You state “there are limits on a lot of banned substances.” could you name some of them? Thanks.

that doesn’t address my question though. Maybe I should phrase it differently. Are there lower detectable levels of other ‘banned’ substances that do not result in punishment? Or is it only caffeine and perhaps testosterone that are regulated?

thinking about this some more...probably too much....but, what are some examples of other ncaa banned substances that are regulated by the ncaa like caffeine is? Could I have some meth or cocaine in my system? Some steroids? what substances do they regulate?

Since the snowflakes ruined our nickname and the nickel, how about a giant crystal snowflake trophy?

Ok. I was under the impression the vast majority of substances on the ncaa list were zero tolerance, and that only caffeine and possibly a couple others were regulated.

Right, that's what I was thinking in terms of coffee or 5 hour energy amounts. It just seems like it is so easy to regulate, I find it hard to believe the kid accidentally OD'd on 5 hour energy.

And here's your entire quote: Caffeine is a banned substance by the NCAA. A urinary caffeine concentration exceeding 15 micrograms per milliliter (corresponding to ingesting about 500 milligrams, the equivalent of six to eight cups of brewed coffee, two to three hours before competition) results in a positive drug test. I take that to mean it is banned once exceeding 15 micrograms per millileter. Maybe i'm interpreting it wrong.

"In high amounts, it can lead to testing positive for a banned substance." https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Caffeine and Athletic Performance.pdf

If looking at the situation using logic, motive, and corroborating comments from others who have been through the ndsu football program doesn't work for you, i guess you can just call it holding their comments in "high regard". Not sure of the answer to your riddle. Seems irrelevant as long as ndsu refuses to come clean on the situation. Notice in the original article Brock said somebody within the program supplied it, and he had no idea it contained a banned substance. Caffeine is not a banned substance. It is a regulated substance. If word choice matters (which admittedly is debatable given these are all ndsu folks) then I have a hard time believing the new narrative that it was caffeine.

Coin with REA on one side, and the Minard Hall collapse on the other.

So you’re contending the Robbins family goes public to stick up for their son, but wouldn’t bother to mention, oh by the way, it was caffeine? lol