JohnboyND7

I believe it holds 18,901 or something like that. But that doesn't mean everyone with a ticket will show up. For one reason or another, not everyone will make it. Sickness, weddings, kids' events, etc. If UND wins, Lakes will probably kill himself. I myself plan on falling on a sword if NDSU loses, cause thats honorable and stuff. I think it will be interesting to see how the players respond to it. I'm sure they are aware that the fanbases don't like each other and all the other hooplah, but they still probably won't quite have that animosity towards one another. Discuss.

The video makes fun of the wording of the measure. Also makes fun of UND so you might not find that funny. The stuff pertaining to the nickname vote though you will all probably laugh about. If someone can figure it out how to make it so you guys can bring the video up into a window in the thread, please do so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=x3SKoidyQYw

The fargodome doesn't hold 20,000. I imagine about 18,600 being there though. Also depends a bit on if the teams are good.

hehehe

One could make an argument against that to a degree. People should be playing against schools that they are capable of competing with financially. Should Notre Dame, USC, Alabama, etc. be in the same competition as.....say...Idaho and Wyoming? In basketball, I think so, considering having one or two great players can get you to the promised land. Football, you need depth and a lot more money to compete than in basketball and the other sports. If it gets to the point where there are three divisions, I would like NDSU to find its way into that second tier. I'm sure UND folks would think the same way. In no world could NDSU/UND get to a position to compete with the huge powers. Just not possible.

And that really sucks for the logical fans who aren't married to some cartoon logo.

recruiting is hard enough the way it is. and with NDSU's venue it will be hard. SDSU and USD....who knows. All I know is that the Sioux name will destroy you guys's ability to field a team that could compete at all. To the nickname supporters, i'm rootin' for you guys! If you want to keep a name and destroy any UND chance of competing go right ahead. At this point, I do not care.

Because some people were probably making a big deal out of it.

I'll buy the HD camera that DaveK isn't impressed with.

UND is not a big enough deal for the NCAA to care at all. If say....the BCS conferences all said that they were not going to stand for something, the NCAA would sweat. But why would the NCAA, care about a new division 1 school who really isn't nationally significant? If UND dropped out of sports at this point, college hockey fans would notice. It'd be the same thing if NDSU threatened to leave the NCAA. If you think that it would be any skin off of their back to watch UND walk away, it wouldn't. In all honesty, it might even make them happy because the nuisance that the nickname stuff has caused at UND. DaveK, the state AG signed off on it, the state board of higher ed. signed off on it. Apparently, it your world, the honorable thing to do is to go back on your word. Say what you want about it being an unreasonable demand, but if you want to be part of the organization, you better just deal with it. And every other school with an indian mascot fixed the problem. Might just be time for you to accept that if UND keeps the name, the athletic programs you will be watching within 5-10 years are going to be exceptional average at best. If you get rid of the name(it is only a name, get over it.) UND athletics have a chance to be successful. You think it sucked being a UND fan while NDSU was on its run to the NC this year, wait until UND is no more significant to people in the state than Minot St. or U Mary.

100% agree to an extent, obviously you can't go around being called the Nazi's or anything...

Not til december But in all seriousness, I've heard a lot of people talking about all-black uniforms which is fine and all, but just wondering where they are hearing it from. Can't fault DaveK for being curious.

You could make an argument to make some changes to the NCAA, but destroy it? No thanks. No matter what big organization you get running the show, I think all of them are going to make efforts to be politically correct.

Real sad deal. Had a tough job trying to teach NFL players to not be stupid with their money during and after their career. Big part of the Bison family. The old man was real bummed when I texted him about it.

I normally disagree with Dave but I'm with him on this one haha. Source?

We pulled off a legit color-coordinated thing a whopping one time down here in Fargo that I can think of, and they encourage a yellow-out I think once a year. Very difficult to get the normal fans to take part. Students is easy...(well it is here anyways). To do it for an entire season would be extremely difficult to get everyone on board. It also requires the building to be full! (had to throw something rude and unnecessary in the post). carry on!

You made good points. Is the Sioux name worth risking? Do you want to play a game of roulette with the Big Sky...?

You know Fullerton has not sounded excited one bit about adding UND (and the baggage) to the conference on the radio. If UND keeps the name, I think it has been pretty well accepted by everyone that UND probably will not be a member of the Big Sky conference for more than a season or two.

Colleges are politically correct. If UND has the 'Fighting Sioux' name and are on sanctions, they will not be a member of the Big Sky. You know this. Do not pretend that UND has a 50/50 chance at staying in the Sky with the nickname. I'm with you on that.

Well once upon a time, NDSU and SDSU were the two young kids on the block and now between us we typically have at least one of the top teams in the league in every sport. I have no problem playing with those same schools again if they are willing to make the investment required to compete in Division I. Would I prefer the Summit to stay the same as it currently is? You bet. But can't really do anything but sit back and see what happens at this point.

I don't see a problem with that. Did you have a problem with UND playing in the WCHA for hockey and playing in the NCC/Great West for all those years?

So you just admitted that you don't just cheer for them cause they are the Sioux? You can easily cheer for them after the name is gone.

They are pretty ugly, but at least a primary color. Seems like most NDSU people like them. Black is just a new bandwagon alternate thing going on.

No...I go to the games. I cheer for them to do well. As long as they have a home and are competitive I am happy. The UND hockey-only crowd is a totally seperate entity from UND fans.

Umm no? I wouldn't.