JohnboyND7

You know Fullerton has not sounded excited one bit about adding UND (and the baggage) to the conference on the radio. If UND keeps the name, I think it has been pretty well accepted by everyone that UND probably will not be a member of the Big Sky conference for more than a season or two.

Colleges are politically correct. If UND has the 'Fighting Sioux' name and are on sanctions, they will not be a member of the Big Sky. You know this. Do not pretend that UND has a 50/50 chance at staying in the Sky with the nickname. I'm with you on that.

Well once upon a time, NDSU and SDSU were the two young kids on the block and now between us we typically have at least one of the top teams in the league in every sport. I have no problem playing with those same schools again if they are willing to make the investment required to compete in Division I. Would I prefer the Summit to stay the same as it currently is? You bet. But can't really do anything but sit back and see what happens at this point.

I don't see a problem with that. Did you have a problem with UND playing in the WCHA for hockey and playing in the NCC/Great West for all those years?

So you just admitted that you don't just cheer for them cause they are the Sioux? You can easily cheer for them after the name is gone.

They are pretty ugly, but at least a primary color. Seems like most NDSU people like them. Black is just a new bandwagon alternate thing going on.

No...I go to the games. I cheer for them to do well. As long as they have a home and are competitive I am happy. The UND hockey-only crowd is a totally seperate entity from UND fans.

Umm no? I wouldn't.

You should probably go get yourself checked out if thats what color your pee is haha. I just don't see it. But it is a trend and if thats what you like, then go for it. I find black uniforms to be really boring.

Couldn't tell you what the athletic department thinks. I can tell you that I thoroughly enjoy the football conference we play in. Maybe instead of assuming Oakland and IUPUI are gone, maybe you should worry about what UND will do if the Sky says no thank you. Darrell, that could happen I suppose. I really do not care too much where the non-football teams play, as long as an auto-bid is on the line.

No thanks.

Wasn't a big fan of them. Better than all-black. At least it used a color that has always been a big part of NDSU's color scheme. Black has no place in NDSU's scheme. UND could pull it off better than NDSU considering UND wears black pants sometimes...I just don't really dig the all-black look.

Wait! You mean student-athletes will still play in the Alerus, the Betty, and the Ralph? No way....will they also attend the University of North Dakota too?

This might be the most ridiculous argument I have seen in some time. And I, have been the instigator of many ridiculous arguments ( see about half the threads I have posted in.) DaveK, I understand where you are coming from in that I think the tight ones look weird. But that is what the style is nowadays. Tough luck chuck. Everyone else, Dave won't change his mind. he is very opinionated and sticks to his guns. No point trying to argue about who is right about which ones look cooler. it is entirely subjective. Maybe instead of arguing about it, you can figure out if the helmet will still be a different color of green than the jersey Oh! And while I am at it, I will say I think All-Black Uni's look ridiculous unless Black is one of two primary colors (see Texas Tech.)

Who cares what it was founded on? That isn't what it is anymore. (Though that is an impressive lineup of teams no doubt, too bad they couldn't keep that together). Division 1 wrestling does have 95 teams as opposed to...58 or 60? It has some D-III teams I believe you are right, but the vast majority are D-I. The powerhouses are all D-I as well I believe. Which is more than hockey can say. Not that it really matters. I do not follow wrestling a whole lot anymore. Can we not get into a pissing match on this crap guys? I take the bait every time and people just end up mad instead of discussing CONFERENCE REALIGNMENT.

It'd be worth it I suppose. Just to laugh. And it is fun to watch people stuck between a rock and a hard place.

They really should. I don't see any shame in it. It isn't like they have other options. They could find out what winning feels like again.

Al Carlson is doing it as a powerplay. Not to benefit NDSU. Please.

Well then I guess I am joining in. I haven't complained about the cost to the taxpayers. I know plenty of NDSU folks have, many of them I believe are the "Vote Yes" people. I want the schools to play some sooner or later, I'd rather the state not get involved, and so far they have done a nice job staying out of it. I of all people, wouldn't complain too much if it came up often. I get so much entertainment out of this show that has been going on for years that I am willing to let the exceptionally wealthy state of North Dakota's taxpayers pay for it. I'm totally with you guys that voting yes is the right thing to do, it is the only thing that makes sense for the school, for higher ed., etc. But this is a trainwreck I can't quit watching and if it can go a little longer, I'll be happy to watch. I feel very bad for those who have wanted it gone from the start of the NCAA policy. I feel pretty bad for those who were willing to accept a name change after November 2010, I don't feel bad for those who waited until the recent Spirit Lake decision to jump on the Namechange bandwagon, and I just think people like DaveK and Fetch might need to go to Jamestown for psychiatic testing at the State Hospital.

Funny story about our 8.8% tuition increase is even with it, NDSU students only by $83 dollars more per year than UND students. I think we can live with that. No reason for the state not to give more money. Until NDSU gets fargo representatives on our side though, that sadly probably wont happen. Other threads for this sort of discussion. Anyone have an idea where Seattle and Denver will end up if the WAC fails altogether?

Believe it or not, things such as UND's attitude towards NDSU back in 2003 will affect how a small group of people vote. By small, I mean very small. If you don't help out someone else, don't expect them to help you. What do I have to gain by voting yes?

I dislike UND. And friends and family who are UND fans want them to keep the name. Plus, it is really fun watching people dig their own graves. So I'd like for all the people who love the Fighting Sioux nickname above all else to see what happens when they are forced to keep the name. I do not want to stick it to the NCAA. I have no problem with the NCAA's policy. A bit overzealous and they have bigger fish to fry, but their club, their rules.

Have to spend money to make money. Chapman....really miss that guy.

If I vote, I'll vote no. But the chances of me cutting time out of my day for something like that really doesn't seem too likely. Is that good enough for you? Remember, O'Keefe, Kelley, Hakstol, all of them are lying!!!!! LONG LIVE THE FIGHTING SIOUX!

I am aware of the series record in my lifetime. You are correct, less than favorable for the Herd. But tough luck I guess, rivalries go in cycles. I picked fifty years because it is a number everyone relates to, someone had done the math, and it its very close to the amount of time the Super Bowl has been around. Also happens to be around the time NDSU found out football was a fun sport to be better than other schools at. The timeframe for all opponents is edited. For me, football at NDSU starts in 1963 when NDSU got Mudra to come coach. Anything before that is not really Bison football. Similar to how anything before Coach K isn't really Duke basketball, anything before Chuck Noll isn't Steeler football, etc. I surround myself with what types? Not really following you here. If you explain, maybe I will understand what you are getting at.