JohnboyND7

Like others have stated, those schools do offer great academics and the "prestige" of being D-I. That said, obviously, the good DII schools can and will beat them. I see your train of thought. Either good or bad, as we now know, the DII wins now count at the very least somewhat. Some folks in the past, (i actually believe this), that states are members of a voluntary organization. Some states tried to leave, the others fought them and won. I think it will be hard for the elite schools to leave. Because at the end of the day, they need to small schools to some extent. I think they'll manage to leave if they want, or will manage to get their way for the most part. Whats important to me is that schools like NDSU, Montana, Appy, Ga So., JMU,, etc, and as much as it breaks my heart, schools like UND manage to find themselves in the right division(2nd from the top, or top if completely necessary) to be successful.

I met Kelley(too many people mispell his name) at an ROTC function when I was in the program. Believe it or not, NDSU and UND have very closely knit ROTC programs. Same commander, same teachers, etc. Seemed like a nice guy. I'm sure he has UND's best interests in mind. People are probably too hard on the presidents. I doubt anyone who posts here hasn't made a mistake at work. When these guys make mistakes...it ends up in the papers and on forums like SS.com and BV.

SDSU fans dont travel all that well.

Wonder who that'd be, we have a Travis on our football team but he would be wearing two rings so it definitely wasn't him!

Yes. The game should be pretty dang full. People wanna see the banner raising and all that. Absolutely nothing. But I can't imagine my out of towners showing up.

I'll bet UND getes about 8-9 for the Valpo game. Thursday nights are not conducive for good crowds.

Well, if thats the case, then I look forward to going to see Bozeman. Last time SU went there....and beat the living snot out of a Big Sky champ, I couldn't make it. Won't even dignify the Grand Forks statement with a response!

Looking more forward to the conference slate as well as the home playoff games we are very likely to get. Really is too bad we are getting a D-II game but one would be willing to bet Montana State will be seeded lower than NDSU...and could be making that trip to Fargo that they wanted to avoid.

I imagine plenty of kids who were raised being casual UND fans are now NDSU fans simply because NDSU has been very good. I imagine plenty of casual fans switched allegiances especially if they like football. Hardcore fans....I can't imagine any becoming NDSU fans.

I dont think anyone is happy about the fact NDSU was forced to settle for Ferris State. The difference between this and some other teams who have scheduled D-II, is that we had a bigtime OOC game set up..this was a last resort.

On the bright side, new FCS playoff rules allow it to be a counter. Though I will have trouble staying through this game in its entirety.

You mind expanding on that? Charges dropped. More and more people seem to understand he didn't deserve to be charged in the first place.

Washington..had a lot of trouble with EWU a year or two ago. Washington was 7-6 last season. UCLA...was actually pretty good last year. Who really knows about them I suppose. Oregon is a very very good football team.

Sam Houston's coach said NDSU had the best defense they played last year...including A&M(pretty solid D) and Baylor(no D at all).

PAC 12 isn't all that good of a conference. It has USC, Oregon, and Stanford. Could NDSU beat the other teams? I think so. Could NDSU do that for a whole season with 63 scholarships...no I do not think so.

They don't teach us anything about the Canadian game here, allowing fighting just makes it more of a circus than it already is....and I know nothing about tractors, only time I ever drove one I damn near broke it.

I bet he'd be fine with his kid looking up to whichever hockies player it was who suckerpunched the Minnesota player in the postgame line.

from what I have heard about Lakes in real life, he is apparently a pretty cool dude. Just gets a little carried away on the message boards. Maybe, maybe not. I wouldn't be surprised either way, and to be honest I won't be up in arms regardless of what they decide to do.

The guy who started it should be the individual you are going to complain about. Beck just so happened to be the individual targeted. If Beck wasn't on the football team at NDSU,you would not be saying this. You'd probably say well done on throwing down on someone who was asking for it repeatedly.

video shows him apparently having second thoughts or something, he appears to try to leave the area when these guys "herd" him back in as someone stated earlier.

Could be people he was drinking with had caught a ride home already or lived on the opposite side of town. Maybe he was just waiting for a cap, God knows it is a nightmare to get a cab home if you decide to stay til bar close. Definitely couldn't have hurt to have some friends with.

Thanks for clarifying that detail. It seems like most people have came to an agreement that he shouldn't be charged now. Wouldn't be surprised one way or the other. From what I have heard he is a pretty quiet guy. I have never talked to him though so I can't vouch for that or anything.

Everyone in Fargo gets community service for minors. Also, if I recall, his first resisting was just for running away from a party or something like that. Hell, I ran from the cops when I got a minor and didn't get in any extra trouble for that....literally within a month of Travis. So if Beck has second thoughts or wants to go elsewhere and tries to leave, and is essentially prevented from doing so. At some point he has the right to defend himself.

Slap a 2 game suspension on this max and go get our 3-Peat.

If Beck is found guilty, I doubt he will be playing this season.