That is the problem Bob Motzko has been whining for years telling everyone how his team has the moral high ground, and they are a clean team and that his team doesn't play the cheap game of hockey yet two of his players have earned reputations, Hepp is one of the top penalty leaders in the WCHA and Aaron Marvin has now been suspended four games on the season, Hepp was given one and Motzko got a letter of reprimand for his conduct at the end of a game, yet you hear SCSU fans bad mouthing UND about being a bunch of goons.