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Opps, I always forget about that. Vinny Testaverde also had his career diminished by playing for the then-woeful Bucs. Bill Walsh rescued Steve Young before his career was wasted.

I actually think the 2000 Ravens rank a little higher than the 2002 Bucs, but they were both very good.

Bradshaw: Should be ranked as a 1970's QB. Overrated. Carried by the Steel Curtain Defense. Sell. Plunkett: A solid game manager, but not a consistently great QB. Sell. Montana: The greatest of all time. Buy. Theismann: Ran Joe Gibbs' offense very well. Career cut short by Lawerence Taylor on MNF (if you are queasy, don't watch it). Buy. McMahon: Managed to produce decent resuts with Ditka breathing down his neck. Rode Buddy Ryan's 46 D to Super Bowl title. Sell. Simms: Better QB than he gets credit for. Buy. Williams: Had one great Super Bowl performance. Other than that...... Sell. Answer this question: Would guys like McMahon, Plunkett and Bradshaw be stars in today's NFL? I say heck no, they would be pedestrian back-ups at best. In 2013, more teams pass the ball more often, at a more prolific pace than they ever have in the history of the game. The running game is used as a distraction by some teams. And the teams that do run it more use a running back by committee approach (with the exception of teams with AP-type running backs). That was the point I was trying to make. But you are also right; QBs have been important in the NFL ever since they legalized the forward pass and stopped running the single-wing.

They were lucky enough to be on teams with legendary defenses. Very few defenses ever reach the levels of the 2000 Ravens and the 2002 Bucs.

I am not saying QB's weren't important in the 1980's; of course they were. But the game wasn't nearly as passing oriented as it is today. Most coaches still stuck to running the ball twice and throwing it on 3rd down if it was too long to run for it. The 49ers were ahead of their time and thus won four titles. The Dolphins terrorized the league with Dan Marino for years before teams figured out how to slow him down. Today, the NFL is extremely pass-oriented and if you don't have a QB, you are screwed. For example, the Vikings offense of today (built around AP with an average QB) might have performed better in the 1980's when the running game was still considered the most important part of the offense. Now teams routinely use the pass to set up the run, instead of vise-versa.

Good choice. Division II school, which lets him play immediately. Winning program. Annual playoff contender. Should tear up the NSIC. Good luck to him.

Good points.

"That Tommy Kramer guy" also wasn't very durable and liked his alcohol a little too much. I think both of those things prevented him from maximizing his full potential. He was okay, but he wasn't what you need in a franchise QB. And the QB position is way more important today than it was in the 1980's (look up Packers, Green Bay for proof of this).

I think there is a good possibility of being swept next weekend, with at least one of the losses being a shutout. Let's say 3-1 and 1-0. Prove me wrong boys!!!

Maybe the Cowboys should move down to FCS when Idaho finally sees the light and moves down themselves.

And Tampa won three games after starting the season 0-8 before losing today. The Vikings should get a top 5 draft choice or top 10 at the very worst. With all the QB prospects that will be available in the 2014 draft, they should get a crack at settling the one position that hasn't been settled since Tarkenton retired.

No head coach of Wyoming will ever have the resources to compete (same with Iowa State), so those coaches shouldn't be judged as failures because of what happened at those schools.

Welcome to our (sometimes) dysfunctional Fighting Sioux on-line family! Your first post is a good one. And I agree with you 100%. Don't be a stranger.

Agree 100%. As it stands right now, Hakstol = Woog. That could change this year, it could change next year or it may never change. Hakstol has had everything you could ask for to win at this level. Facilities, tradition, institutional and community support, talent. When you have all of this and you cannot bring home even ONE NCAA title, it is completely fair to ask the questions being asked. Not saying we should fire Hakstol, but it is more than fair to criticize his game management and his "systems" (which he is married to at all times, no matter what the situation). Being objective does not make you a "bad fan" or "disloyal" or whatever. Having said all that, Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Another factor in the Florida FB situation is that there are so many other FBS programs in the state that will take advantage of the current putrid state of the program in recruiting. The path from greatness to mediocrity is short and the path back to prominence is much, much longer (and rockier).

You really want to open up that can of worms again?!?!

UNH has gotten close a couple of times (they lost to Maine in OT in the 1999 title game for instance). Yeah, it would be cool if he could finish his coaching career with an NCAA title.

Yes, coaching changes don't always work out. But that falls squarely on the Presidents and Athletic Directors, who are constantly besieged by wealthy donors and alums to make changes for whatever reasons. They have to have the discipline and the guts to say no when a change is not really warranted. Otherwise, they shouldn't be in their jobs.

I imagine this same thing happens with various big-time FB programs as well. For example, I would imagine a lot of Florida FB fans are chomping at the bit for a change after losing to Georgia Southern (a team without a passing game) last weekend. Same thing with Alabama and Auburn FB. If coaches there don't win conference and/or national championships, they are gone. The more passionate the fan base, the more "crazy" the comments are. I don't think it's a vice, I think it's a virtue. And I wouldn't have it any other way.

That is a pretty good analysis of the situation.

No questioning your loyalty from this fan; there is nothing wrong with calling it as you see it. Of course, some people on here will give you an argument on that.

Um, yeah, that was several years ago. Having one really good team does not make you better than another school several years later, especially since FU has a five year head start on us as a Division I program. The fact is that Saul Phillips went to the Big Dance with Tim Miles' players. He has yet matched that level of success with his own guys. And until he does that, FU will remain stuck in the mud while we catch up to them.

Nice that you are using your FU education. My question was that the NCAA has allowed transfers without penalty in the past and I wanted to know if it was applicable to a coach being fired. I never implied anything else. Nice try, please play again.

Didn't the players at Penn State get the option of transferring without penalty after the whole sex abuse scandal broke?