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But those standards have to be somewhat realistic. We need to remember just how bad things were when Bubba was hired. It is similar to starting a program from scratch.

Then the trolls need to get lost and go back to Bisonville. I don't waste my time over there; why do they waste their time here? Anyway, here is the quote that irritated me. It was in a different article than the one I was talking about: http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-football/3843120-und-football-notebook-lot-has-changed-und-ndsu This sounds like some unnecessary bitterness on Klieman's part. What in the world did the Bison D prove on Saturday against a very weak UND offense that still hasn't recovered from the coaching change? And why would Klieman and his players give a rat's behind what narrative the media chose to focus on? Klieman should be more worried about what happened vs. Montana; that could be a problem against the rest of MVFC.

Why don't you "move on" and go back to Bisonville?

And he can throw the ball off his back foot with the best of them. Mollberg is very athletic, but is too anxious to run and has super bad happy feet. I think Bartels should get a chance before Mollberg.

So that gives them license to do whatever they want whenever they want with no consequences? The rules apply to everyone, including almighty "FBS in our own minds" NDSU. And by the way, YOU are the one that's pathetic for defending this hit.

So should they give it back?

That 2011 GWC title is looking more and more expensive with each passing game. That was the title that prompted Faison to give Mussman a contract extension, which resulted in the gigantic mess we have right now. At the time, it was exciting to beat South Dakota at home with the furious comeback. In retrospect, it would have been better to lose that game.

Is he even available? Isn't he still recovering from that torn Achilles from last year?

Well, the Vikings won today, despite a bunch of stupid penalties (and I am talking to YOU Barr), so I really don't care about that.

No, the negative impact that Major Junior hockey has on college hockey is fair game.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-football/3843011-college-football-ndsu-rolls-past-und-34-9-rival-game You asked for it, you got it. If dominating an inept offense with a leaky O-line and very young players at key skill positions makes Klieman all warm and fuzzy inside, then so be it. But you should have been dominant against our offense and you were. This remark was more about the media chatter about UND's defense, which actually has some talent and toughness on it after years of being Charmin-soft. If Klieman feels that insecure about the media not focusing entirely on his team, then he better brace himself for when the Bison play other playoff-caliber teams this season. And as for feeling "all warm inside", you should feel that way if you read Wayne Nelson's column this morning: http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-football/3843114-wayne-nelson-bring-bison-again Based on this perspective, we might as well throw in the towel right now because the mighty Bison will be ruling the roost forever and a day. But the fact is nothing lasts forever and the day is coming when NDSU loses to UND in the playoffs. And I'll be enjoying every minute.

Shhhh, that topic is forbidden on this forum because "just being there" is now considered "just as good" as a national title. Seriously though, please ignore the ramblings of Benny "Hockey Rube" Baker.

Until we move up to FBS before NDSU does (for the record, I don't think either school should do that), I don't think you should use that line of thinking. NDSU is where we want our program to be at some point. Belittling FCS football is not classy or a particularly effective argument. Don't stoop to their level please.

Bubba has exactly one recruiting class to work with. One. And I don't count the class he put together right after he was hired; there isn't much left by that point in the recruiting season. The cupboard was more than bare when he took over, the cupboard itself needed rebuilding. And most of the defections after Mussman was fired were on offense. So this shouldn't surprise anyone. I don't think a judgment on Bubba's regime can be made for another two years. It will take that long for him to have enough of his guys in place; which is when we will be able to determine if he is doing it right or not.

With all due respect, you are wrong. And I wasn't talking about people driving in from 100 miles away, I was talking about people in the Grand Forks area who probably will forget we have a program until the team is playoff-caliber. I don't like that attitude, whether the sport is football or hockey or whatever. How does it look to recruits if we have 3,000 to 4,000 people per game in a stadium that seats over 10,000? That is my big concern. I am a season-ticket holder and unless I am sick or there is some sort of family emergency that comes up, I will be there for every home game, win or lose.

I think the coaching staff understands that changes need to be made on offense and they will probably do some experimenting this week in practice. Bubba knows that we won't win games against anyone putting up less than 100 yards of offense per game.

And I am really sick of having you Bison trolls on here running your mouths after winning a game you were supposed to win. I am really surprised that fans of a team that is working on their fifth consecutive FCS title feels the need to come on here and complain about what our fans say on our discussion forum. Perhaps you got this forum mixed up with Bisonville? And your HC whining in the paper this morning about how he got sick of hearing about UND's defense, which is way better than what it was two years ago, during the week leading up to the game was real low-class. So the media doesn't talk about the Bison 24/7/365 and totally ignore the team they are playing? Get over it! Is he going to do that during the MVFC season too ("I am really sick of hearing about what Northern Iowa brings to the table")? I certainly hope not. Bubba obviously inherited an apocalyptic mess and is doing what he can to clean it up. And it's going to take more than one recruiting class, some Mussman leftovers and some transfers sprinkled in to do that. But when (not if, but when) we get our program up to the level where we are competing for FCS titles, I would hope that our fan base, media and coaches won't behave like the world revolves around us and nothing and nobody else matters. Just another reason why I will never cheer for NDSU under the guise of supporting the State of North Dakota. Never.

No, men's hockey is an exception because I think he is a hockey-only rube.

You do realize that you are not helping the program by being a fair-weather fan? Or maybe you don't realize that? Maybe someone on here can shoot you a PM and tell you when it is safe to go to a game again? Either you support the program or you don't. Or you are a hockey-only rube and don't really care either way.

I don't think Rudolph has anything to work with right now. Norv Turner couldn't get anymore out of this unit right now.

I still think we will pull off some wins this year we wouldn't have last year and definitely not two years ago. If all we do is look at W's and L's, it gets really depressing.

You are assuming this team won't get any better at all from now to the end of the season. I think we will get better day by day, practice by practice, game by game and recruit by recruit. It took the Thomas regime six years to reach the playoffs and seven years to beat NDSU. Bubba is early on in year two. We have to maintain a long-term perspective on this team. #daybyday

You were really, really close! I think you should go to Vegas on your next vacation!

The problem with the offense is the O-line. Changing the quarterback is not going to fix anything at this point. Bubba and company are going to stay the course and let the offensive players learn on the job. There is no real credible alternative right now. This staff inherited one of the worst teams in program history and has exactly one recruiting class of its own to work with, along with some leftovers from the Mussman regime and some transfers. People need to get their butts to the Alerus Center next Saturday and every home game after that and support the team and the program. I will be there next week. Will you?

This excuse gets really old. Let's face it, once Rocky ran out of players from the previous regime he never could get the program back to the level it was throughout most of the 1980's. Roger Thomas and Dale Lennon just flat-out beat NDSU for the best players and won more big games during the 1990's. It was not caused by the NCAA cutting scholarships. And once Bubba has this program back to what it once was in the early 2000's, you won't be copping that smug, arrogant attitude on here anymore. Enjoy your dominance while it lasts; all good things eventually come to an end.