fightingsioux4life

Enjoy it? I don't know, I guess I just enjoy a good, robust debate on topics important to the SS.com community.

It's the offseason, what do you suggest we talk about? You can only talk about next year so much before you run out of material. And if this topic offends you so much, just ignore it.

This is the main point of the Hakstol Critics Club (HCC), not to be confused with the Fire Hakstol Club (FHC).

Or how about regional title banners?

No wonder he works the oil fields; he needs all that money for beer!

Okay, so over the past 11 years, it was all on the players and/or bad "puck luck"? Think of all the different players that have come through this program in 11 years, it has to be a large number. And you are saying that during these 7 trips to the Frozen Four, we have a 1-6 record solely because of the players not performing and/or some bad "puck luck"? What are the odds of all those different teams with all those different guys being that delinquent for all 7 Frozen Fours in an 11 year time frame? Especially with all the world-class talent we have had during this time: Toews, Oshie, Parise, Stafford, etc. And if the team is good enough and competent enough to get to 7 Frozen Fours, why are they suddenly unable to win once they get there? And this is after beating good teams on a regular basis during the regular season, the conference tournament (in most cases, anyway) and the regional, which was often held a long way from Grand Forks. These are the questions that are vexing people on here. And my main point is that the common thread through all of these teams is Hakstol. Now that doesn't mean he won't get us over the hump; it may even happen next year. But it does raise questions from our fan base and it is frustrating to watch over and over again. So for some people on here to get all angry that everyone isn't chanting "In Hak We Trust" in unison all the time no matter what is a sign that they are blinded by their loyalty to the team and are not able to ask critical questions. I hope I am proven wrong next year and I hope I will have to eat my words (and I will). But if the past is a predictor of the future, I am not betting much money on that outcome. I think Shawn-O had it right earlier: Retain him through the rest of his current contract, but don't extend him yet. And I am fine with agreeing to disagree, that is what America is all about, right?

NHL 94 is even better, you can create your own players.

Defending him? I just don't think calling him a "moron" is the right move. If anything, it gives him what he wants.....a reaction. And I don't mind gfhockey even if I don't always agree with his posts. If everyone on here was the same, it would be a boring place to post.

I think you called gfhockey a moron either in this thread or a different one (and he does get on people's nerves from time to time). No hard feelings, in the end, we all support the same team (except for the FU and Rodent trolls).

First of all, someone that likes to call other people "morons" shouldn't complain about my "condescending tone". Second of all, I have never called for Hakstol's head, but I do have serious doubts that we will win a "natty" under his watch. And lastly, a lot of people on this forum have put forth many statistics and analysis of what might not be working for us in April. I would call that "constructive" (not including gfhockey's irreverant viewpoints). Our fans are a little smarter than you give them credit for. If you don't agree with it, that is fine, but don't scold and preach from your perch about how right you are and how wrong we are. This whole issue is complicated and has many different angles to it. End rant.

I cannot speak to that point because I didn't hear him say it. But it might have happened. I don't have time to search right now, but maybe someone can Google Nick Saban and find out?

So is college basketball. And college football. And the NFL for that matter. I don't hear the "one and done" excuse used in those sports. So why are we using it?

Okay, let me explain this to you because you don't get it. A fan forum like this is where people vent their frustrations over whatever. Maybe you think it shouldn't be that, but that is what it is. So the last thing the players and coaches should do is read this forum after a tough loss because they won't like what they read. I know if I was a coach or player on the team I wouldn't read this forum.

Players and coaches shouldn't read fan forums at all, period. There is nothing to be gained from doing that.

"Puck Luck" and "Hot Goalies" haven't stopped Boston College from winning 4 titles in a span of 15 years. This is about getting it done when it counts and this program just hasn't done that. That doesn't mean we won't the next couple of years, but you just don't know how many Frozen Four trips you will get. That is what makes these failures so hard to swallow.

This seems reasonable to me.

They still put 30+ shots on goal and they weren't shy about attacking Omaha in their D-zone.

Didn't some of the people in BRIDGES and other anti-nickname groups say that the nickname and logo were at least in-part responsible for the problems on reservations? These are the problems they should focus on, not a sports team's name and logo.

IALTO!!!

Hmmmm, that sounds like our 1990's teams. And, IIRC, they did pretty doggone well against teams with more NHL draft picks. And now we are the team getting beat by today's Eastern teams. Ironic.....don't you think?

I have never personally felt unsafe in Winnipeg, but I don't doubt the statistics.

This!

You totally missed my main point. The one common denominator the past 11 years is Hakstol. The players come and go, even some of the assistants have come and gone, but the CEO, the boss, is the same. This is his baby, for better or worse.

ROFL, I like to be thorough! But yeah, I do get a little long-winded!

Well, Bob Babich was fired after a 2-8 season, but Rocky's "down season" was 6-4 in 1996. Which once again illustrates the difference between the two schools in standards and what constitutes "excellence" in athletics.