Siouxperfan7

Another reason that Bison fans are so irrate about the whole poll confusion issue is because there was even confusion in the first place. Bison fans feel, and maybe rightfully so, that people in the FCS world should know who they are because they have made a lot of noise since movin up. They had a few 10+ win seasons and have beaten a few FBS teams. UND fans know that and NDSU fans deffinitely know that. Why they are so mad about the mixup is they feel that even after all the accomplishments they have had at the FCS level, they still cannot get the recognition the feel they deserve and seperate themsleves from being confused with another North Dakota school. Especially from their rival who they despise.

Can't wait!! Now that this nickname thing is all figured out, lets get this think on the books!!

The rankings really didn't mean that much to UND last year because it really meant nothing. We were not playoff eligible so cracking the top 24 or even 16 didn't affect us at all. The point being made in all this is that NDSU was the #1/#2 ranked team in the country basically all year. UND was not playoff eligible. So why should Bison fans care where UND is ranked if it doesn't affect them at all? This year it affedts them, but last year it meant absolutely nothing. Only reason some Bison fans had an issue about it was because some have this neverending desire to discredit everything UND does. That is the issue.

I think that UND's record kept them in the polls more than anything. Pollsters don't really look at who you beat, but just if you win. So while they may have got some rogue votes that week after the Fresno game, they were not going to drop them in the polls after a win. I am taking UND's 2011 season with a grain of salt. Sure we had 8 wins, but really we had 5 wins. The 3 against the lower division teams were not good wins and should not be used to rate this team. But in the Division 1 games last year, they were 5-3. Is that a good enough record to be ranked in the top 25? I thinks so. Apparently you do not.

Was there a mixup in the polls the week we lost to an FBS team and NDSU was idol? More than likely. But that doesn't account for UND staying in the polls for the rest of the season. If there was a mixup, don't you think the voters would have "righted their wrong" and move those votes back to NDSU and UND would be out of the polls? Well, that didn't happen. Unless voters were confused for the entire season!! Not sure why Kolpack is obsessed with this. The Bison were never ranked lower than UND. SO who cares!! As long as NDSU was ranked higher, that wahts the big deal? Its just his obvious hatret toward UND being revealed and the fact that he doesn't want to give any credit to UND for anything.

What the heck are we talking about now??? The military ranking of General Custer?? Seriously!! Watchmaker do you just like to argue about everything? You were not getting the point being made. The point was how Custer;s selfish desires and inabbility to see the disaster right in front of him led to his downfall. That is the anology. Wuit trying to pick thru a small detail and argue that instead of the basis of the argument.

Dave, lets just take one FACT and you tell me how we have been misinformed on it. Here we go: If UND keeps the name, one of the sanctions will not be able to host NCAA playoff games. Now, if we don't get to host playoff games, there is a less than 1% chance that the football team will ever win a National Championship. You think that this won't hurt recruiting? Who would want to come to a school that had a slim to non chance to win a Championship because they can't host a playoff game?? So the result would be losing good players to other schools, ad we get the leftover players whos talent level is not even close to competitive schools. Please ell me how I have been misinformed.

Weber State by far. Sweet setup!!

I think most of us agree that our "Fab 5" are pretty good. these guys have already had some accomplishments under their belt (2 Great West tournament championships, wins against tournament teams, etc). So these guys are felling pretty confident. Most of us will also agree that these guys can sometimes get a little cocky. Huff being the worst. These guys know they are the best players on the team, and rightfully so. I guess the reason why most of us are excited about these recruits coming in is they will not only provide stability to our bench and be able to come off the bench and produce, but it will motivate the starters because they will see that these guys coming in are just as good. At least that is our hope. Our starters are good. But don't think for a second that if one of these transfers starts to play really well, they won't get more playing time, and maybe even start.

I really hope we don't end up 6-4 and that Mines game is out 7th win. that would be a real buzz kill.

I don't see the University spending money to renovate Hyslop. the Facilities at the Betty are so much better. Better wight rooms, offices, etc. I agree that the UND baskteball may outgrow the Betty in its current state. But I could see them spending money to renovate the Betty. Like adding more seating at the ends. Plenty of room at both ends to expand there. I really hope we are talking about expanding the Betty in the near future!! Want to get back to the days of the early to mid 90's when the basketball ticket was the hottest ticket in town!!

What?? Phil Jackson is going to replace Jones and coach at UND???!!

Ouch Dave.....he kind of put you in a box there!!!

I cannot wait until the day UND is ranked higher than NDSU!! It will be Armegedon down in Fargo!!!

Sidenote from the topic, but what is the Raph Engelstad Arena goin to do about their official logo? It has a predominant Sioux logo in the middle of it? They are a private entitiy not onwed by the University. Wonder what they will do there?

Not making fun of him. Just wanting him to have a vote to either show that the tribe was in support or it was not. He obviously knew that the vote would be in favor of the name, so he did not allow a vote on the reservation. So people were not making fun of him, just very dissapointed that he would not allow the people he represents to voice their opinion.

Alabama never won an NCAA Football Championship last year

I am wondering if they will pick a nome with "fighting" in it. I guess it would be a way to keep at least a little bit of the name. Not sure if they will pick a nickname beginning with "S" either. I guess we could be the "Fighting S_____ (S word). that way it will at least sound similar. "Here's your University of North Dakota Fighting Saints Scoring"!!! Has an OK ring to it I guess.

You are mad at the wrong group of people. I, along with most people on here, love the name and all it stands for. None of us agreed with the NCAA policy. The tribes had their chance to make their approval. They did not get it in time and still fully have not gotten it. It came to a point where keeping the name would have hurt the athletic teams that proudly represent them. So we did not vote to retire the name because we are racist. But to save the integrity of the athletic department and all its teams. We all hated to mark the yes bubble on the ballot last Tuesday. We are not the racists. We are the realists.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. UND felt like they were honoring the Sioux name, the tribes did not. Now that they are retiring it, the Sioux tribes feel they are being discriminated against. So which is it?

People are reading way to much into this. It doesn't mean that the NCAA doesn't know who the NCAA Champions are. It doesn't mean that it is easy to mix up the two schools, especially in the polls. It doesn't mean that the NCAA is clueless on everything they do. This was a case of a secretary at the NCAA office addressed it to the wrong AD, and sent it to the wronf campus. THAT"S IT!!! So stupid that people are trying to turn this into things that it is not.

NO!!! The people who believed that the sanctions that UND was under were "not that big of a deal." That's extreme. For a person not to recognize the affects of that is extreme. Do you recognize the affect of the sanctions? Theye are pretty huge!! The result would lose recruits and our teams would suffer drastically. What the vote last Tuesday came down to was those that care about a name and logo and their selfish desires to keep it, and those who care about the athletic teams in which they cheer for and ensuring they would be successfull for years to come.

Showing a banner meant to be shipped to a rival school is not classless. Bison fans think its classless because they were the "victim" in the whole situation. If it would have been the other way around, I am sure we would have seen some pics from the NDSU athletic office as well. Can't we just think that it's a funny thing that happened?? No need to question the morality of our AD. Seriously...a staff member tweeted a picture and the media got wind of it. Fiason knew about it, called GT, and then did a bunch of interviews the rest of the morning. This is funny!! Take a joke!

Don't forget Rocky Hager!!!

Can't. Settlement agreement says we need to pick a new name. My bet is since the NCAA could care less about the laws we pass about the nickname, they probably aren;t going to let us go till 2015 without a nickname.