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What are you guys debating? Whether or no the Sioux tribes supported UND using the Sioux name? Why are you debating this? It makes no difference now. Standing Rock could come out tomorrow in overwhelming support of the Sioux name and it would be too late. Why bicker and fight about whether or not the Sioux tribes actually supported UND using the name and when.

Can Kelly or someone at UND please just relase a letter to all UND stakeholders and the Herald and just tell everyone their resoning for wanting to choose a new nickname and not just go as North Dakota? This should have been done days after it was initially cut. But I feel it would be beneficial to do it before the public vote hapens. There is information that Kelley and others have, conversations with NCA officials, conversations with Big Sky officials, other AD's, that the general pulic is not privy to. There is a lot of information labeled as "scare tactics" that proboably does carry some weight and is legit. This administration needs to get control of this situation. This process has been overly transparent, except on this issue. It needs to be addresed but Kelley.

I think we are way past the point of this being a disaster!

North Dakota is already the name of the school. You can always support that. Whether it by be your cheers at games, your apparel, whatever. If people truly want to be North Dakota, then they already have what they are wanting. Picking a new nickname will give those that want UND to move on from all this a name as well. So if you want to just refer to UND as North Dakota, you can. If you want to refer to UND by their new nickname ou can as well.

It only takes one. SCSU would be the most logical choice o a school that has been very vocal against the Fighting Sioux name even before 2005. You really don't think anyone complains about the FSU tomohawk chop and shenanigans at FSU football games? Really?!! They do. Only difference is FSU got their required approval as laid out by the NCAA. UND did not. THat is the difference.

No name is going to be good enough to the no nickname/North Dakota crowd no matter how many times the process is done. Suggesting that the process should be done over is just delaying the inevitable.

There are many that say they support no nickname/North Dakota because the names that are left aren't good. The problem is no matter what names were left, the mojority of those people wouldn't support it. And most of the time they will not provide an acceptable name that they would support. It is failry obvious that the no nickname/North Dakota supporters are not going to support any name that isn't the Fighting Sioux. They refuse to aknowledge that a new name is going to be chosen and are seen as stubborn because they do not want things to change. And they wonder why people call them out for being childish.

The NCAA said that UND would not violate the settlement agreement if no nickname was selected and went as just North Dakota. But they also said that if there are issues with the continued use of the name and there are complaints from other schools, they may have to impose sanctions based on the settlemet agreement. The NCAA right now is being pretty lenient on the settlement agreement. Mainly because they got what they wanted and UND retired the Fighting Sioux name. They have every right to enforce the rules based on the settlement as they see fit. At any moment they can enforce rules, sanctions, etc. This is not scare tactics. This is realilty. If there is even the slightest chance that the NCAA would come down with sanctions becuase of their actions, why even go there! It is not worth the risk.

"The Sioux were Silenced" crowd is about 8 years late on their efforts. At this point, trying to convince UND and the NCAA that the Sioux people didn't get their voices heard is a lost cause. Having a rally with Standing Rock and Spirit Lake tribal memebers telling of the times they granted UND permission to use the name are going to do any good at the point. The "Move on" crwod is not saying that we need to move on because that is our opinion. It is because it is the only viable option right now.

I honeslty believe that fans will transition to a new name. You will see less and less Sioux gear out there and more (insert new nickname here) merchandise and apparel. Fans will yell out the new nickname at the Ralph, Betty, Alerus, etc when cheering on UND teams. It will happen. history has shown that. Now will it be everyone right away? Of course not. There will be those that will wear there Sioux apparel to games till the day they die. But as time goes by, new students will come thru the doors, and younger fans will grow up with a new name and want the new merchandise being sold. They are going to yell out and cheer for the nickname of the team. We have already seen it at UND sporting events even with no nickname. You are seeing less Sioux apparel being worn by fans at all venues, (yes even the Ralph). I am not here to say that I am glad this is happening. It is just a reality. Now while I hope that people will trasnition to the new name at different speeds, I truley hope that we can al be unified and support the teams that we all bleed green for every year and not have to deal with all these distractions that have been plagueing our fanbase for over a decade!

UND football has been wearing green jerseys with white pants at home for decades. This isn't something new, So if you are not a fan of it by now, you may never be!!

You can have your opinion. You are entitiled to it. You bring up a lot of points. But let's just break it down to the most simplistic way possible. Having no nickname is just dumb. If it was such a hip, cool, unique idea, others schools (especially ones that were in the same boat we were that had to change their native american nickname) would have considered and done the same thing. NONE of them did that. I could give you reason why like moving forward, marketing possibilities, branding, etc. But it is really this simple. Having no nickname is dumb idea.

What is wrong with Roughriders?!!

Nice. Glad they didn't go too crazy. The stripes on the shoulders are deffinitely a nice touch!

http://www.grandforksherald.com/opinion/letters/3819196-letter-petulance-some-und-fans-discredits-university Some great opinion pieces today in the Herald today. Another person who gets it!

Will the NCAA really allow UND to have no nickname? Will other schools complain that ?UND fans are still unofficially using Fighting Sioux as the unofficial nickname? Can the NCAA really sanction UND for not having a name? Does free speech apply here? How long do we have to worry about this being an issue? If only there were a solution to end all these questions?!!

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The overwhelming majority of North Dakota/no nickname supporters are people that want to unoffiially still be the Fighting Sioux. You can all deny it, but it's true. And the NCAA knows this as well. They aren't stupid. If you think that we can slip one by them by doing this you are kidding yourself. There are 2 options; Pick a new nickname and be finally done with this issue or kick the can down the road and deal with this circus in the future.

What is also worth noting is that when this all went down 10 years ago, these kids were not even in Jr High. Not that I am calling todays UND students ignorant, but I highly doubt that they have been informed on ALL aspects of this issue over the past decade. Uniformed voters are a dangerous thing. Just look at the last 2 presidential elections!! (but I will leave that topic alone) I think a more telling survey would be to ask for a 1-2 sentence telling why they voted the way they did. Would be very telling and would give the truw motive of most voters.

"I strenuously object? Is that how it's done? Hmm? Objection, your Honor! Overruled. No, no. I STRENUOUSLY object. Oh! You strenuously object. Then I'll take some time and reconsider."

It's all about the risk that UND wants to take. Sure they could not pick a nickname and the NCAA would be OK with it......for now. But there is a chance that the NCAA could revisit the issue if they see that problems exist with retaining the old name exist (in their opinion). So why risk it? Why go through all this again in a couple years?

Deny it all you want, but the UND/NDSU game will be the biggest regular season game the Bison have played in since 2003. It will be an actual rivalry game. Sure games against UNI and SDSU have been intense this past decade, but not even close to a UND/NDSU game. Wheter the scores of both games are close or a blowout, the fans will be demanding this game to be played again and more frrequently.

Has anyone actually talked to someone who likes the name Sundogs? I mean, do these people actually exist? Seems to me they are about as common as abdominal snowmen!!

Which is why Sundog should suffer the same fate!!

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You anti-dentite bastard!!