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If UND develops a logo of a Hawk with feathers, do you really think the NCAA is going to come after them? I mean....Hawks are birds, birds have feathers. Do you really think the NCAA will say "Hey that brid logo you have.....it can't have feathers".

Where are those logos that a UND student developed that were going around?

OK, where is the morphed Sioux logo that turns into a hawk that a UND prof apparently made? I have yet to see this. If anyone has it , please post. Would be interesting to see. If not, I am sure there are some creative people out there that could whip one up!! Let's see it!!

His #1 choice was the Spirit Rainbows!!

Time for "Cowboy guy" to change his image!!

Anyone else think that the new name will also be announced with a new logo? If you think about it, it is really the way to go about making an announcement like this. No need to keep the debate going for another 8 months on what the logo will be. I would be in favor of UND holding a press comference and announcing both at the same time. Think it will happen??

50.5% - 49.5%. Kelley will declare it "too close to call" and there will be yet another runoff!!

"Our Hawk is better than your hawk"

The end.....of this round of voting that is. The end is deffinitley not anywhere close in sight!!

So, before the game, we were 5-4. The attendance was 6996. What would the attendance be if we were 7-2? Probably about the same. There is obviously a lot of talk about playoffs and we have a good shot at making it if we win next week. Let's say we do make the playoffs and we win the bid to host? What will be the attendance for that game? Obviously having the game on Thanksgiving is going to hurt attendance. (I would say especially students, but it will probably be the same). First playoff game in the D1 era and I don't think we would even get 9000. I really don't get it. I guess there is more to do in Grand Forks in November than I thought!!

If we make the playoffs, UND needs to host. First FCS playoff game.....can't get oubid for that one!!

Based on how long it took to get the previous 2 voting results announced, I would expect to hear something late afternoon next Wednesday the 18th. Does that mean all this is over? I think most of us can agree....not by a long shot!!

Pathetic excuse. Not like you are going to work for 8 hours. Take a nap between games if that will get you thru!!

The real question may be not if more people are pro Roughriders, but if more people are anti Fighting Hawk!!

Wow. Crazy numbers. Currently 31-4 for Roughriders? So where are all these Fighting Hawks votes coming from? Definitely not from those on this site!!

Will there be more Roughrider votes this time around that are "anti Fighting Hawks" votes? Sure there are some that don't like wither name. But not voting will most likely result in Fighting Hawks being the new nickname. Curios to see if the voting numbers go up!

Anyone else see this scenario playing out? Fighting Hawks wins the next vote making it UND's nickname. Months from now it is announced that UND is in the works of developing the new logo and that the blackhawk bird logo going around is not going to be UND's new logo. Students will be up in arms saying they were fooled to thinking that was going to be the logo. Protests will ensue demanding that the blackhawks bird logo be the new nickname or the Fighting Hawks name be dropped. It will be announced that the hawk logo in question will not be able to be obtained. Students will protest for a change of the name. Interim UND President Ed Shafer, with his strong family ties to Medora, and western ND will decide that Roughriders is a much better fit and makes Roughriders the new nickname of UND. Call me crazy, but at this point in the process, is it that to hard to believe?!!!!

What is the farthest west UND has played a hockey game in the continental USA??

That was the problem. You a a room full of people that voted names up or down based on personal preference rather than actual laid out criteria. This is where the process failed. And failed miserably!!

Here is the list of nickname trait requirements: Representative of state/region Honor past/look to future Promote pride, strength, fierceness, passion Sense of community/connectedness Intimidation to competitorsUnique, recognizable, distinctly UNDFormidable/fierce Inspiring, unforgettable Beautiful/classy When the initial cut was made to 63 and forwarded on to the committee, every one of those 63 names should have been rated based on the criteria listed above. The committee failed to hold to the very standards they came up with. Had they actually followed their own criteria, the names that were eventually narrowed down to vote on would be most likely met with more of a positive response.

Tenure is not necessary. If you suck at your job, you should be fired. Am I over simplifying?!!

Orleans Arena

But the geometric Sioux logo was eventually updated to a more natural life like logo that was approved by virtually everyone. So while an initial logo may be generic and boring at first, there is always the potential to update it to something better.

Avoid the disappointment. Vote Roughriders!!!

I heard of a Sioux logo that was morphed into a hawk logo. Is that true or were they just referring to the blackhawk look alike we have all seen?