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When you fund the most popular sport in America as a second-rate sport this is what you get … pathetic. Increase the salary pool … ASAP. And hire a better head coach please.

Correct. Danny is no idiot. 2024 is a lame duck year. ship is sinking. 2013 coaching hire was poor, and extension in 2021 was especially poor. This is just plain bad to be honest. But, well, hockey … Ha! What a joke…

Yeah, but this guy … https://gojacks.com/sports/football/roster/mark-gronowski/12203 https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2024-01-06/south-dakota-state-qb-mark-gronowski-wins-2023-walter-payton-award?amp … lots of questions regarding his future.

Point is, you can’t really retain that well now. South Dakota State has done pretty good, though, and they’ve seen results because of it. So, I guess, it’s just relative; top FCS programs just have to retain better than everyone else.

So, they developed talent but still can’t win playoff games? Doesn’t change the big picture. Nice try though.

That’s one way to look at it. But only one single way and many exist. All the FCS programs … other than South Dakota State 2x National Champs. Relationship there for sure … No doubt they will eventually get hit by the transfer portal like every other FCS program …

No Surprise: South Dakota State wins their second consecutive FCS National Championship 23-3 over Montana.

2024 is a lame duck year. This feels a bit like 2012/2013 all over again.

Old fashioned way in this new modern age of college football is quite dangerous … and likely futile. Just get new coaches with a new approach. Until then, rinse and repeat.

All this talent but no playoff wins means only one thing …

UND football is becoming a good farm program for the FBS.

Another reason why UND/ Grand Forks not having a local communications voice now hurts. Everything moving to Fargo from a media perspective has significantly hurt UND and Grand Forks …

A bit negative I’d still say but still a worthwhile thought. It will change and mid-majors will be less relevant, but it won’t end mid-majors. Collegiate athletics - especially college football - is getting to be bigger $ by the second. This means it will be harder for UND to have relevant football program on the national stage while trying to fund the program second-rate (due to the existence of hockey as first rate). There was always talk that UND hockey funding hurt UND football in the past, and it was controversial, but this is becoming a bigger deal day by day. There’s only a finite number of resources. Collegiate football is becoming less and less about development and more and more about what can you do for me right now. In essence, that means student-athlete payments through NIL, as well as facilities and winning right now. It’s why some push for coaching change now, it’s why getting the new facilities is a big deal, and it’s why winning championships is a big deal, although even the top programs (NDSU, SDSU, Montana) suffer loses to FBS . But, again, with UND putting all the chips in for hockey, it will get harder not easier for football, unless the philosophy changes. But there’s a lot of ice heads around Grand Forks and UND …

Tough game. Blew a big lead and missed game-winning shot. UND now a losing squad…again.

Did you watch anything? Got better towards end of season. Still FG kicking ain’t anywhere close to where it should be.

Are you aware of the 2013 UND football coaching search?

Field goal unit … yeah, plenty to improve for special teams yet.

I’m afraid you’re actually the one with the auditory hallucinations given how often you bring up voices in heads on here … It’s okay, I can sympathize; trying to constantly justify the current direction of UND football/athletics would be very debilitating.

Money wasn’t the issue in 2013 at all, just an unfortunately poor decision. Money still isn’t the only issue now, but it does help. There’s more money at UND for football, but the culture and historical trends continue to get in the way of that.

wrong. It’s implied over and over again.

Cause our flagship U thinks - for some incredibly stupid reason - that football is second-tier … There’s resources at UND for football coaches, but the department is mismanaged due to cultural issues (hockey, hockey, hockey) and historical trends. Rate of change is quite slow in the Dakotas, especially in Grand Forks.

I keep seeing that typed on here but then the actual comments suggest otherwise …

Glad you over-thought that one. UND underpays is the bottomline. Maybe Schmidt taking a cut to get FBS coordinator on his resume also? San Diego State budget likely not much larger than Wyoming’s, but someone else can look that up. okay, I looked it up. San Diego State with greater football budget than Wyoming. https://knightnewhousedata.org/fbs/mwc https://nevadasportsnet.com/sports/wolf-pack/mountain-west-athletic-department-power-rankings-which-schools-get-most-bang-for-buck ultimately pointless in terms of UND underpaying football coaches ..

Some of you folks wouldn’t be upset if UND won 7 games every season for the rest of eternity, because it’s “better than where we were”, so there’s that …

You missed the point. In this instance, lack of foresight - not $ - was the issue.