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It's almost like the revision from a few weeks ago came from somewhere outside the CDC and was put in place despite some controversy. https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/09/17/report-controversial-cdc-guidelines-discouraging-covid-19-testing-were-imposed-on-agency-by-hhs-and-white-house/

Tough to get ready for a game when half your team can't practice, including large portions of individual position groups. UND maybe would have had a chance if they would have taken the lackadaisical approach other programs have been using to keep players on the field but they followed the guidelines laid out and it made it almost impossible.

No decisions have been made and there are multiple plans being devised. However all parties involved want to put as many fans as allowed/recommended in the stands as they can. I'd guess the front-runner right now is ~50%/5,000 but that could very easily shift.

I agree with that, testing should be better than it is. Not sure what the solution there is other than proceed with what we have and hope we keep learning at an exponential rate. One of the things that they will go back and look at is excess deaths vs. expectations, which has exceeded the expected threshold every single week since March 28th. Absolutely no argument that there is a portion related to the fallout from the response to CoVid and without seeing cause of deaths, it is tough to tell how that breaks out. But 5 months straight of higher than expected deaths is a clear indication something is going on. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

What unique nature of counting deaths are you referring to? Here's a fairly balance explanation of the misinformation about that "clarification" Influenza deaths are counted by a mathematical model. The model takes into account everything you're claiming it doesn't, including not having influenza as the sole cause of death or listed on the death certificate at all. Regardless of your stance on the virus or the reaction (either way), how things like this becoming political is a huge part of the problem. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/how-cdc-estimates.htm

If you think UND wants to shut down campus, you're absolutely out of touch. Like, legitimately zero clue at all. They are doing everything they can to keep it open, which is why they are doing so much testing to help slow down/prevent excess spread, not so that they can throw in the towel. Students taking a bit more responsibility would be a step in the right direction, but after being locked down and the chances of it being serious to them, I can absolutely see their point of view. Armacost is exactly right though, UND shutting down would have a significant impact to the Grand Forks economy, specifically many businesses who have been struggling significantly the last 5 months. He didn't ask for a mask mandate, and I'm not sure that is the answer, but to think the policies city-wide not lining up with UND's and it being irrelevant isn't accurate either. I'm also not sure that closing the bars at 11pm is much more than window dressing, but those businesses have been taking the brunt of things and shutting them down completely doesn't seem fair to them. It's almost like a really complicated answer where the information isn't strictly black and white.

It hasn't, but that's because a large amount of the most recent positives are in the 15-29 range. The increased testing (and exponentially increasing positive rate) is showing who needs to quarantine to prevent them from spreading to those outside that range. More information is not a bad thing and my general opinion is Grand Forks/UND is currently handling the information they have well. That being said, based on last nights city council meeting, it is teetering on more restrictions if things don't start leveling out.

What's your number that's acceptable to have things "back to normal"? Apparently more information is bad. Is that along the lines of the US has the most cases because we test the most and if we don't test than we'll have less cases?

You doubted it was a plastic bag. Then you posted a video that literally stated it was a plastic bag.

The video you posted literally stated it wasn't a molotov cocktail, it was a bag with something in it. Way to disprove your own narrative boomer.

There is a whole lot of narrative framing and wrongdoing by both sides, there is no moral high ground so not sure why you're trying to claim it here.

Turns out a plastic bag is now the same as a molotov cocktail. But one makes for a better story.

So they plan on restarting fall camp and all the testing? Are they going to look into the "senior football fund" at Chubbs that boosters donated to when players thought they were done playing? No NCAA violations there I'm sure...

Let's keep up here: Trump's solutions to hurricanes is to nuke them.

Again, you support a party that has a layup and instead picked Joe Biden. And that is after selecting Hillary Clinton 4 years ago. There is no false equivalency. The polls being close shows how terrible the D's handled this. They act like they don't actually want to win and are happy to complain from a minority position. Where's the lie?

Yet you support a party who had a layup to stop it.....and they picked Joe Biden. Sounds like they are just as complicit.

What percentage of your posts are you just copying and pasting headlines/articles or tweets? Opinions are more persuasive when they at least include some original thought instead of just posting what other people think.

UCA Jacksonville State North Alabama Multiple FBS teams who agreed to a game but NDSU "claimed" they were low-balled The more info that comes out, the more it was obvious that NDSU was just delaying cancelling their season to try to appease their fan base. #ButWeCalled100Teams

I'd say both candidates have done plenty of using their influence to get their children job's they weren't qualified for.

This reminds me of where random people try to ask someone if they have actually seen The Wire. And then that someone happens to be David Simon. While I wouldn't say I agree with all of his views, Simon has been pretty clear that the premise and point of The Wire is not in line with the points Goon is trying to make. Plenty of articles out there about it.

Nah, Trump's ideolgoue has always been whatever happens to be convenient for his own personal pocketbook. Pretty much starts and stops there. Maybe that makes him a centrist because he can support either side when it benefits him. However, he has a knack for understanding what people want to hear and capitalizing on that. For example, he is far from a small-government conservative but he has no problem talking down about the ideology that small-government conservatives don't like or claiming liberals are a direct attack on what they value (despite him in support of very similar policies). He's also painted himself as almost a character where he can get away with making blatant lies and just moves on to the next thing. What's unfortunate is the decorum he does it with. Even those who support his policies have to cringe more often than not when he's speaking unfiltered. While things were definitely polarized before he took office, at best, he has done nothing to quell it while at worst, he's flamed it for his benefit. But he continues to play the media like a fiddle and has made them the enemy instead of himself. Frankly, its fascinating.

The quote from ML is either incomplete or contradictory to earlier statements. They already admitted there were teams willing to play, NDSU just didn't like the price. That's different than 3 not willing to play (especially since there was supposedly one lined up) and considerably different than the narrative that teams were "scared".

Here's your answer: https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/6621008-UND-has-29-athletes-test-positive-for-COVID-19 So not only are all those athletes now in quarantine, but after contact tracing, anyone who meets the definition of close contact with them has to quarantine for 14 days. How many players would actually be able to practice? You're going to lose whole position groups or your whole offense or defense if you follow the CDC guidelines. On top of that, you can test players on Monday and hope you get the tests back by Thursday or Friday to play a Saturday game. If there is a positive and that player has been practicing all week, how much of your team are you going to lose to the quarantine rules and who's left to play the game. Again, all of this is laid out very well by the UNDFootball 360 guys: https://undfootball360.com/news/the-reason-why-college-football-was-postponed/ On top of that, here's the guidelines UND would have had to follow to play Kansas State:

No, the charade of pretending the game was going to be played would have hurt finances and possibly hurt players. There is not a single person that didn't want to play them. I'll wait on your answer why NDSU didn't take the games available to them though. "Anyone, anywhere......as long it is convenient for us"

They were ready to sign the contracts until the border closing got extended. Unfortunate and convenient all at the same time....