jdub27

Yes, with a big part of that due to difference in how states are reporting it, which won't change with it being sent to Health & Human Services and then hidden from everyone. At least the data was semi-transparent with the CDC as people could see the source data and try to figure out what the differences are. Is government transparency not a good thing or did I miss a memo? But since that isn't working perfectly, I guess the next step is to not let anyone see it? I guess that will cut down on questions about the numbers.

And not make the data publicly accessible. It doesn't matter who's in charge, there is no way that should fly.

Should have happened in 2013.....Douple really screwed that one up.

Agreed, no one has been right. It is a novel virus and nothing was known about it 6 months ago. But I'm still going to at least defer to the experts opinions and at least listen to what they have to say instead of completely dismissing them instead of policiticians (on either side) or keyboard virologists. As for moving forward, I'm in the same boat as you, people need to make their own decisions. I also am completely aware that people doing whatever they feel best for them indivdiually is why the US is on a completely different curve than other countries because there are way too many people that make very poor decisiosn. It isn't a coincidence that things are moving backwards in multiple southern states rather than forward (as they are in plenty of other countries). On top of that, what's right for ND/MN isn't the same as what is right for much more densely populated states and having that localized decision making is important.

Still no direct effect on UND's schedule yet but the shoes continue to drop. Trying to talk myself into some really cold tailgating for spring football since that seems to be the way things are headed.

I mean, 4 1/2 months ago we were also told "the 15 cases, within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done". But I guess if we wouldn't have tested, we would never know about the 3.3+ million confirmed cases the have shown up since then. The experts have openly admitted they are learning as they go, with it being a novel virus and all that should be expected. They have missed the mark plenty, but they aren't afraid to admit that and adjust their thinking as new information becomes available. Kind of like they are following the whole science process. Fauci has also been clear he's not giving economic advice, his opinions come from the public health perspective and those in charge need to weigh their decision making with other factors.

A portion of those are going to be lower-income as well.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/05/us/coronavirus-death-toll-us.html

Maybe the possiblity of playing a 10 game MVFC round-robin season is the answer? At this point, it would be better than the alternative that is being faced.

Correct, due to the weather, it would be much less than ideal for SDSU and their outdoor stadium.

We're doing well up here. And then you have Florida who had more new cases in one day than 12 states have reported since this started.

Wasn't the whole point of the hammer (shutting things down to flatten the curve) to get to the dance (targeted scaling back)? It seems other countries have managed. It is what it is, when cases go up, things are going to close down.

I mean, the FBI investigation confirmed the rope was tied as a noose and that was the only garage to have its pull rope tied in that fashion. So yeah, I'd call it an unfortunate coincidence it had been that way since last year and Wallace was assigned that garage, especially considering the timing with him helping push for the Confederate flag to be banned at events. But Wallace isn't the one who reported it and NASCAR took the steps because they didn't want to take the blowback on being responsible for the investigation.

The FBI was involved because those in charge of NASCAR weren't idiots and knew that an internal invesetigation puts them in a no win situation regardless of what they found. Either it gets labeled as a cover-up or them ignoring social issues no matter what the facts ended up showing. Turned out being an unfortuante coincidence but the sad thing was, based on reactions from a subset of fans and even a driver to the ban of the Confederate flag at events, the plausibility the indcident being accurate was completely within reach.

Considering the very noticeable upticks in Texas, Arizona and Florida over the last few weeks, specifically the amount of those hospitalized, I'm not sure warm weather is the magic bullet everyone was hoping it would be. Encouraing to see things are still well under control in this immediate area, but that could just naturally be from the ability to easily socially distance here. Also, I guess I'm not sure how the election year thing plays into it considering this seems to be a global pandemic with other countries taking measures far more severe than the US to control the spread. Are all of them in on this whole thing as well? Canada and the US mutually extended a travel ban until mid-July. The EU is looking at disallowing visitors from the US (along with Brazil and Russia) if/when they reopen their borders early July due to coronavirus response. Not sure how those things are the US media blowing things out of proportion and tie to the US election.

I'm more concerned about the spike in hospitalization rates in some of those areas than what the death toll says. I see AZ is finally tightening some restrictions back up, which was always supposed to be the plan when the spikes that were bound to come surfaced. China had ~100 new cases in Bejing, contact traced it and implicated a partial lockdown to slow the spread. The US had 26,000 new cases yesterday and its mostly business as usual. But I guess if we just stop testing, all the cases will go away. Not sure how Fauci giving his opinion that playing sports in colder weather is higher risk than if the finished earlier is all that controversial but we all need something to be up in arms about I guess.

WIth cases bottoming out across the US, probably makes sense to keep ignoring experts in infectious disease and their recommendations, even if they are still continuing to learn about a novel virus that they had zero understanding of just a few months ago. Encouraging to see how the warm weather in Texas, Arizona and Florida are wiping out the virus though.

The president stated his decision to shut down the country down is why the death toll is so far below original projections. Are you saying he's completely wrong and if we didn't shut down the economy we'd still be in the same spot? Not sure how you can say we shouldn't have shut down the country and then say the president has done a stellar job (which I actually agree with giving the informatoin he was working with) when he specifically states, that decision was the correct one. Seems very contradtictory as he stated he was the one that made the call.

Apparently repeating the president's own words is now criticism of him? He has owned it, claimed the decision to shut down the econcomy was absolutely necessary (and his decision) and his delcaration is that it was a rounsing success. Per his own words, 1-2 million would have died if he hadn't taken the steps he did.

Trump stated his actions on shutting down the economy prevented it and saved all those lives. Took experts 10 minutes to convince him it was what needed to be done. Or at least that's what he stated at his press conference Friday morning.

The one where people are using church gatherings as an example of things that are banned despite them being allowed for the last two weeks. The Supreme Court upheld the legality of limitations on church gatherings, it's hardly a Walz/Minnesota issue.

Well there goes that straw man...

Why the mental gymnastics to frame a 10+ million job swing vs expectations (adding 2.5 million jobs instead of losing 8 million) as a bad thing? No one said things are back to where they need to be or we've reached the end goal, but it is a hell of a lot better than what was expected. The president is currently on live TV and there is a concern he is going to throw his shoulder out patting himself on the back about it. So yeah, "unexpected good news" seems to be pretty accurate. He literally just called today the greatest comeback in American history. You probably also aren't going to like what he had to say about the shutdowns, how many lives he claims were saved and how he says it was all worth it but that's a separate point.

And here I was concerned we wouldn't get our weekly jobs update since it was unexpected positive news this week. Thanks for picking up the slack!

How about this one? https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2016638 Can we also ask the other side on who has the most to gain if it does prove to be effective?