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The contract was for 2015 in Fargo and 2017 in Grand Forks only.

Both teams have week 3 of the season open (Sept 19th). 2015 was always the most tossed around year for the series to restart.

Oregon doesn't put the brakes on either. Would definitely be a fun place to go watch a game though.

UND will travel to USD in 2014 per Jeremy Hoeck of the Yankton Press. I assume it has to be the front end of a home and home agreement. Nice, close OOC game. Guess we get to see how UND stacks up against MVFC teams in back to back weeks as UND plays Missouri State the week before. This also gives UND 12 games for 2014 but only 5 home games. Good OOC schedule with San Jose State, Robert Morris and the two MVFC teams. Homes games will be Robert Morris, Montana (for 3rd year in a row), Portland State, Weber State and Northern Arizona. Not sure on USD's 2015 schedule, but UND has the 3rd week of the season for an OOC game. USD's inon-conference schedule is impressive in 2014: Oregon, Montana, UND. Anyone have any idea on the Missouri St game? I don't recall seeing that on the schedule before but could be wrong. Is it part of some sort of home/home? I can't imagine they paid us money to play one game there.

Jeremy Hoeck, sports editor at the Yankton Press, tweeted they are getting $525K for the game.

I am specifically talking about Matt Greene. His donation is listed on the Donors page on the Spirit Campaign website under "Major Gifts: $25,000 - $99,999 [A-G]". Learn to read.

My argument was never hockey players, yours was. You are the one that differentiates them, not me. Regardless, Matt Greene is absolutely on the list of donors to the Spirit campaign along with a specific page detailing his donation to the Spirit campaign, which I linked to. And again, the Spirit donation list isn't an all inclusive donation list. You have no idea what other donations hockey players have given back to the University, you just assume they haven't. Edit: You were trying to make this same argument last August and Matt Greene's donation was pointed out to you then. Seriously??

Are you sure you read the list? Matt Greene is on there and he has signed a multi-million dollar contract. I included former athletes and not just hockey players because I don't really differentiate. Kleinsasser is an easy example of a former athlete that gives back to UND. That list isn't an all-inclusive donor list either, that is just for the Spirit campaign, just because they aren't on that list doesn't mean they haven't given back. Also, many of the guys who have signed the big contracts are still young, I don't think it is a stretch that in the future we will see their names on donor lists as well as they get older.

I feel bad for those people. All programs have them and the reflect poorly. I'm not going to call out college kids by name, but looking through the Forum there has been a handful that have been in the court section and not mentioned elsewhere. Also, it doesn't pertain to just violations of the law either.

The same as NDSU fans are enjoying it now. No one is naive enough to think UND athletes are not going to get in trouble, the difference is this petition fraud thing won't go away due to the stupidity of those involved. The interesting thing is I've seen a lot more UND incidents reported lately and a lot more NDSU ones go unreported, at least as it relates to current athletes.

Not sure why you need to make everything about you and derail conversations or why I indulge in it, especially considering you never back your statements up... But there was just an article about Matt Greene and his donation. And if you look through the donation list on the Spirit campaign, you'll see a lot of former UND athletes on that list.

Wow is this embarassing...

The fact that there is as much discussion on it as there has been makes me think the B1G has already won the battle. By not playing FCS, they have brought up their SOS in the majority of people's minds whether or not they actually have on paper. Pretty good strategy by them, in people's mind perception becomes reality.

For the amount of trouble the NDSU football team has been in the last few months that hasn't made the newspaper for both team violations and actual violations of the law, I don't think I'd be sitting too high on your pedestal...

This I agree with. No comment from Bohl or Taylor is necessary. But to those that think it doesn't reflect on the NDSU athletic department and they won't be associated with this are living in a dream world. You get the bad with the good, you don't get it both ways (again not directed specifically at you).

Why is playing time relevant? If he's on the team, he's on the team. Or are you saying that different players should be handled differently based on where they fit into the heirarchy of the team? I could never see that happening...

Meh. I agree with you for the most part, but I always see "Once a Bison, Always a Bison" tossed around when talking about the guys who are making positive headlines or getting shots in the NFL at the playing or coaching level. Got to deal with both sides of the equation. UND had a situation where a few former players got in trouble about a year and a half ago and quite a few NDSU backers didn't have a problem making a connection with UND even though they were no longer with UND's program. The amusing thing was that these guys had an oppurtunity for a heck of a second chance with this. Complete their probation and get deferred imposition on something that could seriously jeopardize future job opportunities. Not sure how you don't take care of that is fast as possible. This isn't directed at you, but attacking the messenger is also a pretty sad way to respond to this. Jump up and down and scream about how NDSU is big time and deserves national media attention, etc and then complain when there is bad press that comes in your local newspaper when something like this happens? And then claim she is stalking the players but post her college information and a link to her picture? Who's the stalker? Come on man... Also a little strange that Caillou didn't write the article but a regular reporter did.

Saving money isn't the only reason to join a conference.

You are such a victim.

How it was handled and what the punishment were are separate issues. I probably wouldn't have suspended him, but won't fault UND for their reasoning. Both parties involved thought it was the appropriate punishment. However I agre with you, I don't think the public announcment of the suspension and fallout from that part of it was not handled properly and not really necessary particularly because as you said he immediately apologized and took full responsibility for it, including sending the audio to Faison. That point I believe we agree on.

It is tough to argue against what UND did when Ralston is on record for regretting what he did/how the situation was handled and completely in agreeance with the suspension. The Deadspin article gives more insight than what was known before.

Likely took that long for them to get alot of the FOIA documents they requested and then go through them all. I do think it is strange they dug into it that much though. Seems a little tame compared to the investigative things they normally do.

Saw that earlier today and read through most of it, intereting stuff. It appears Ralston definitely thought that what he said was inappropriate regardless of what others thought. Also gives an insight into the relationship of the school-hired media, the schools themselves and what can happen when they are brought in house. Very similar situations to colleges across the country as is illustrated by e-mails received from other schools on how it was handled. I thought it was amusing they got e-mails through the FOIA and posted them. I would guess that just gives a small glimpse of the kind of stuff that the AD, SID and coaches have to put up with.

Again, you are here to defend yourself and as far as I can tell, no one has ever publicly called out your name. Anonymously criticizing someone by name who is unaware and can't defend themself is completely different to whatever it is you think you are subject to.

You are the one that is constantly bringing up other people's name, good and bad. Not sure if you want people to think you're connected and well known or what (and maybe you are, don't know, don't care), but it is definitely a trend of yours.